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Thread: John Boehner: 'Not my job' to convince skeptics

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    John Boehner: 'Not my job' to convince skeptics

    "I believe that the president is a citizen. I believe the president is a Christian. I'll take him at his word," said Boehner, appearing on NBC's "Meet the Press."

    Boehner spoke after viewing a video of a Republican focus group in Iowa in which a number of people indicated that they believed Obama was a Muslim.

    "As speaker of the House, as a leader, do you not think it's your responsibility to speak out against that kind of ignorance?" asked the host, David Gregory.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...0,861253.story
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    Funny I don't remember anyone asking Pelosi that question?
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    They should ask a Muslim.

    If a child is born into a Muslim family, what religion is the children?

    If it is Muslim, can the children change their faith or religion?




    With that being said Obama says he is a Christian, I have to take his word for it, even if his actions give me doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Hawdolfin4L View Post
    They should ask a Muslim.

    If a child is born into a Muslim family, what religion is the children?

    If it is Muslim, can the children change their faith or religion?




    With that being said Obama says he is a Christian, I have to take his word for it, even if his actions give me doubt.
    I never have understood the birth right thing with religions. It is not enough to believe in the right god but you also have to of been born from parents who believed in the right one also? It strikes me as illogical.
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    It is illogical.

    That is the way it is in the Muslim world. If you change or renounce, they can kill you.

    I don't know if it is true with other religions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Hawdolfin4L View Post
    It is illogical.

    That is the way it is in the Muslim world. If you change or renounce, they can kill you.

    I don't know if it is true with other religions.
    I don't think you know a thing about the Muslim world.





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    Your RIGHT Gonzo, I don't know a thing,

    But these people might:



    Cannot leave Islam


    http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010...-youre-in.html


    9. You can't leave Islam once you're in





    http://freedomdefense.typepad.com/leave-islam/


    If you are thinking of leaving Islam, be wary, be careful. Do not tell your Muslim friends or family. The Qur'an commands your death for leaving Islam (4:89 calls for the murder of renegades from the faith), and

    Muhammad is explicit in a hadith: "If anyone changes his religion, kill him" (Bukhari).






    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XPS-PndDU8
    Death Penalty if you leave Islam Muslim reverts and converts. Apostasy Kills







    OBAMA a Muslim?


    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/2750/...ways-a-muslim/


    December 18, 2006


    And while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that’s not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it. In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he’s a Christian, but they do not.






    http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.ph...=515&Itemid=34


    Once a Muslim, Always a Muslim in Malaysia


    Malaysia’s highest court ruled today in a split decision that a Kuala Lumpur woman who renamed herself Lina Joy has lost her 12-year fight to legally become a Christian. According to Malaysian law, Joy will remain a Muslim whether she wants to or not, and her religious status will remain on her identity card. Justice Richard Malanjun, a Christian, dissented in the ruling.







    http://www.thepiratescove.us/2008/05...ways-a-muslim/


    NY Times: Once A Muslim, Always A Muslim

    But it is a mistake to conflate his African identity with his Muslim heritage. Senator Obama is half African by birth and Africans can understandably identify with him. In Islam, however, there is no such thing as a half-Muslim. Like all monotheistic religions, Islam is an exclusive faith.


    As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother’s Christian background is irrelevant.


    I do not see Obama as a Muslim. But, in their eyes, he is an apostate, and, you know what the punishment is for apostacy is in Islam, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Hawdolfin4L View Post
    It is illogical.

    That is the way it is in the Muslim world. If you change or renounce, they can kill you.

    I don't know if it is true with other religions.
    Hi.

    My dad was born and raised Muslim. He is now atheist. He has about 300 relatives in Shiraz, Iran. He also has quite a few middle eastern friends here in the states. No one has ever threatened to kill him for leaving his religion. No one has even mentioned the possibility of killing him for leaving his religion.

    You are full of crap.

    Also, I'm not convinced you're not a troll. Your posts are so ridiculous that you have to be trying to go for a reaction...

    If I could take your pain and frame it, and hang it on my wall,
    maybe you would never have to hurt again...

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    Hey Locke don't tell me I am full of crap,

    tell that to Muhammad, the NY Times, the Judges in Malaysia.

    I am only relaying what I read to SHARE, and if I am full of crap...well that would mean that ditto where I got the info from.



    As for being a troll, I was a Dolphin fan probably before you was even born.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Hawdolfin4L View Post
    Your RIGHT Gonzo, I don't know a thing,

    But these people might:



    Cannot leave Islam


    http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010...-youre-in.html


    9. You can't leave Islam once you're in





    http://freedomdefense.typepad.com/leave-islam/


    If you are thinking of leaving Islam, be wary, be careful. Do not tell your Muslim friends or family. The Qur'an commands your death for leaving Islam (4:89 calls for the murder of renegades from the faith), and

    Muhammad is explicit in a hadith: "If anyone changes his religion, kill him" (Bukhari).






    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XPS-PndDU8
    Death Penalty if you leave Islam Muslim reverts and converts. Apostasy Kills







    OBAMA a Muslim?


    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/2750/...ways-a-muslim/


    December 18, 2006


    And while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that’s not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it. In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he’s a Christian, but they do not.






    http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.ph...=515&Itemid=34


    Once a Muslim, Always a Muslim in Malaysia


    Malaysia’s highest court ruled today in a split decision that a Kuala Lumpur woman who renamed herself Lina Joy has lost her 12-year fight to legally become a Christian. According to Malaysian law, Joy will remain a Muslim whether she wants to or not, and her religious status will remain on her identity card. Justice Richard Malanjun, a Christian, dissented in the ruling.







    http://www.thepiratescove.us/2008/05...ways-a-muslim/


    NY Times: Once A Muslim, Always A Muslim

    But it is a mistake to conflate his African identity with his Muslim heritage. Senator Obama is half African by birth and Africans can understandably identify with him. In Islam, however, there is no such thing as a half-Muslim. Like all monotheistic religions, Islam is an exclusive faith.


    As the son of the Muslim father, Senator Obama was born a Muslim under Muslim law as it is universally understood. It makes no difference that, as Senator Obama has written, his father said he renounced his religion. Likewise, under Muslim law based on the Koran his mother’s Christian background is irrelevant.


    I do not see Obama as a Muslim. But, in their eyes, he is an apostate, and, you know what the punishment is for apostacy is in Islam, right?
    I was waiting for the wacko links. Oh the interwebs...
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