It's not entirely ridiculous to think after watching USC and UCLA conclude spring practices Saturday that one (or both) of these current Pacific 10 teams could finish 11th or 12th.

The conference, after all, doesn't officially become the Pac-12 until July 1, when Utah and Colorado join and the league splits into North-South divisions.

OK, it's not going to happen. Washington State is still in the conference and newcomer Colorado, coached by former UCLA player Jon Embree, is probably going to pay basement rent for at least a few years.