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Thread: Penn State Ex-Coach, Others Charged in Child Sex Case

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerdolphin View Post
    Yea, Paterno did what he was LEGALLY obligated to do, but the fact that he let it die is morally wrong x100. Legality =/= morality. By not taking the issue to the authorities and even allowing Sandusky to stay on the staff, Paterno had a hand in every time a child was molested by Sandusky after that point. In my eyes, theres no defense for that as a human being. He will get off legally, but I can never think of the guy the same way.
    The incident that was brought to Paterno's attention was in 2002. Sandusky retired from the coaching staff in 1999. So not sure how Paterno allowed Sandusky to stay on the staff when he wasn't on the staff to begin with. Sandusky used the schools facility for the Second Mile, which is why it is school related and not football related. The stuff that went on when Sandusky was on the coaching staff apparently was never brought to light to Paterno or the school. Again, all this happened through the Second Mile, not the football team. That is an IMPORTANT part of the story.

    As for Golden bolting, its certainly a possibility. Everyone pretty much knows PSU was Golden's dream job. i think its funny that you bring up the Miami scandal as a reason for him to bolt to PSU though. Thats rich. They wont have NCAA sanctions but youre kidding yourself if you think this story wont have a major impact on recruiting. What happened there is farrrrrr worse than anything that happened at UM. I rank drinking free booze and banging free escorts far better than an organization wide child molestation scandal.
    It is a strong possibility. The question is if Penn State wants him or not. If they do, he will be on the first plane to State College, no question about it. Though Penn State might look at some other options, and like I said in my earlier post Meyer is a strong rumor up here.

    I brought up the Hurricanes situation because JCane brought it up in the very first post of this thread. Don't believe me, go back and read his post. I agree what went on with Sandusky is way worse than paying players to come to the school. However, the Hurricanes could be punished, Penn State won't. Why? Because the Hurricanes situation involves the football program, the Sandusky situation doesn't involve the football team but a charity on campus. That is where from a football standpoint the Canes are in much bigger doo doo than Penn State. I will repeat again, so you don't accuse me of anything, what Sandusky did was unthinkable and one of the worst things that a person can do. I hope he pays dearly for what he did. Just lets know the facts that this really doesn't involve the football program. The reported incident to Paterno happened years after Sandusky had left the team.

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    Things are getting interesting. I have mentioned Urban Meyer's name and tonight there was another report on him and Penn State. lol. What timing.

    The news said the rumor is that Urban Meyer's daughter may have just enrolled at Penn State for next year and that Meyer purchased land just miles from the campus. If there is any truth to this rumor, just fuels the Meyer to Penn State rumors even more. Maybe Golden could be a coordinator?
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    Who cares about football when Buttslamsky is raping 10 year-olds lol.

    Good grief. You serious with that? I'd much rather deal with some kids getting hookers than child molestation. This absolutely sours the legacy of JoePa.

    You can't just tell the AD and not the authorities. This allowed for future molestations to take place. It's awful.

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    JoePa's old. He probably turned on an "Unsolved Mysteries" re-run and fell asleep, then forgot about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Who cares about football when Buttslamsky is raping 10 year-olds lol.

    Good grief. You serious with that? I'd much rather deal with some kids getting hookers than child molestation. This absolutely sours the legacy of JoePa.

    You can't just tell the AD and not the authorities. This allowed for future molestations to take place. It's awful.
    Again, the incident Joe found out about was in 2002. Sandusky hadn't been a coach since 1999, so again from a football standpoint there is nothing to hurt the legacy of Joe. Perhaps it hurts Joe's image because he didn't follow up with it, but he did do everything the law says he should do. Let's not make Paterno the villian here, Sandusky is the guy we should be directing all our hate to.

    I am not sure how you can even compare the Hurricanes situation to the Penn State situation. The Hurricanes did something that was directly involved with the football program. The Sandusky situation is from a person who was no longer a coach and did his monstrous acts through a charity on campus not tied to the football program. That is why the Hurricanes face sanctions and that won't even be a topic with Penn State. Joe couldn't fire Sandusky, because he wasn't even on the coaching staff when he was made aware of what was going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nublar7 View Post
    Again, the incident Joe found out about was in 2002. Sandusky hadn't been a coach since 1999, so again from a football standpoint there is nothing to hurt the legacy of Joe. Perhaps it hurts Joe's image because he didn't follow up with it, but he did do everything the law says he should do. Let's not make Paterno the villian here, Sandusky is the guy we should be directing all our hate to.

    I am not sure how you can even compare the Hurricanes situation to the Penn State situation. The Hurricanes did something that was directly involved with the football program. The Sandusky situation is from a person who was no longer a coach and did his monstrous acts through a charity on campus not tied to the football program. That is why the Hurricanes face sanctions and that won't even be a topic with Penn State. Joe couldn't fire Sandusky, because he wasn't even on the coaching staff when he was made aware of what was going on.
    In Florida, if I see someone drowning, bleeding, having a heart attack, ect, I am not legally obligated to do anything to help. I can continue on my merry way and leave the person to fate. Doing so would reflect poorly on my morals though, despite me being fine legally.




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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerdolphin View Post
    In Florida, if I see someone drowning, bleeding, having a heart attack, ect, I am not legally obligated to do anything to help. I can continue on my merry way and leave the person to fate. Doing so would reflect poorly on my morals though, despite me being fine legally.
    Except Joe did do something, he reported to his superior. It was the AD who tried to sweep it under the rug. Joe's biggest mistake seems to be trusting the AD to do his job and the right thing.
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    Why are we talking about football at all here when little boys are being raped at Ped State?

    You find out your neighbor's kid is being molested. Who do you tell?

    Let's all try and use common sense here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nublar7 View Post
    Except Joe did do something, he reported to his superior. It was the AD who tried to sweep it under the rug.
    So if I see someone dying and I just stop a guy and tell him that the hurt guy needs help and then walk away after being ignored, thats significantly better? Put aside the PSU and Joe Pa glasses and look at this objectively. If Rex Ryan was aware of child molestation, told Tannenbaum and then let it die when he did nothing about it you would be trashing him. Joe Paterno willingly ignored child molestation for an entire decade. Thats pretty serious. I can't respect anyone who would do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Why are we talking about football at all here when little boys are being raped at Ped State?

    You find out your neighbor's kid is being molested. Who do you tell?

    Let's all try and use common sense here.
    I am mentioning the football side because you, the original poster, made a football like comparison on the very first post between the violations the Hurricanes committed and what is going on now at Penn State.

    I have said that what Sandusky did was unthinkable and he deserves to be put in jail and the key thrown away. I understand Joe is the name everyone knows, but there is no reason to try and tarnish his reputation and the football program's over this. Sandusky is the monster and Curley is the one who tried to sweep it under the rug as "horse play". Perhaps he should have tried to push the issue harder with Curely, but he did exactly what was required of him to do.

    Really football shouldn't even be mentioned in this topic. Sandusky was not a team employee when this came to light and this story has no connection to the football team other than Paterno reporting Sandusky to the AD. The problem lies with Sandusky himself and the actions that were not taken by the school's AD. There is absolutely no comparison between Miami and Penn State, as PSU committed no NCAA violations. But the fact that you and some others have attempted to connect the two, I feel it as a Penn State fan to try and help educate you on the story. To you it is just a national story, to me it is a local story and I can understand how you don't know the full story. Sandusky is the monster and the AD(former) is in big trouble.
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