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Thread: ***Reflection on today's AFC Championship game.***

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    Lets look at this in quarters of total seasons from 09 to 11. 16 games in a season, 4 quarters of a year, 3 years = 12 total quarters.

    At 15 weeks into the 2009 season the Jets were 7-7 and needed help to get into the playoffs and caught some breaks and got in. Then they played good ball essential using the playoffs as a brand new lease on life getting to the AFCC before losing.
    -2009 Q1 = .750, Q2 = .250, Q3 = .500, Q4 = .750

    At 12 weeks into the 2010 season the Jets were 9-2 before finishing by losing 3 of the last 5 and riding the first half success into the playoffs, again kudos to the Jets for using the playoffs as a new lease on life and playing solid ball before getting bounced in the AFCC.
    -2010 Q1 = .750, Q2 = .750, Q3 = .750 and Q4 = .500
    In 2011 the Jets played Q1 = .500 Q2 = .750 Q3 = .500 and Q4 = .250

    This is clearly not the play of an elite football team, they played up past their potential when making the playoffs but the fact of the matter is still the same, in 09 they needed help and played two teams in the final weeks who rested starters, in 2010 they rode the first half success and in 2011 they were widely inconsistent.

    Out of the 12 total quarters over the past three years the Jets have had six at .750, four at .500 and two at .250 now compare that to the Patriots who have played one quarter at .250 and one quarter of .500 ball the rest are all .750 and above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY8123 View Post
    Lets look at this in quarters of total seasons from 09 to 11. 16 games in a season, 4 quarters of a year, 3 years = 12 total quarters.

    At 15 weeks into the 2009 season the Jets were 7-7 and needed help to get into the playoffs and caught some breaks and got in. Then they played good ball essential using the playoffs as a brand new lease on life getting to the AFCC before losing.
    -2009 Q1 = .750, Q2 = .250, Q3 = .500, Q4 = .750

    At 12 weeks into the 2010 season the Jets were 9-2 before finishing by losing 3 of the last 5 and riding the first half success into the playoffs, again kudos to the Jets for using the playoffs as a new lease on life and playing solid ball before getting bounced in the AFCC.
    -2010 Q1 = .750, Q2 = .750, Q3 = .750 and Q4 = .500
    In 2011 the Jets played Q1 = .500 Q2 = .750 Q3 = .500 and Q4 = .250

    This is clearly not the play of an elite football team, they played up past their potential when making the playoffs but the fact of the matter is still the same, in 09 they needed help and played two teams in the final weeks who rested starters, in 2010 they rode the first half success and in 2011 they were widely inconsistent.

    Out of the 12 total quarters over the past three years the Jets have had six at .750, four at .500 and two at .250 now compare that to the Patriots who have played one quarter at .250 and one quarter of .500 ball the rest are all .750 and above.
    Awesome but in '09 and '10 NE lost at home in their first playoff game including soundly to the Jets in 2010 while the Jets won 4 road playoff games(2 each season) and made 2 title games.

    2011 is no contest, they are in the SB and we didn't make the playoffs but '09 & '10 we proved over the long haul we were the best team in the division. We proved that outside of Indy '09 and Pitt '10 we were the best team in the conference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY8123 View Post
    Lets look at this in quarters of total seasons from 09 to 11. 16 games in a season, 4 quarters of a year, 3 years = 12 total quarters.

    At 15 weeks into the 2009 season the Jets were 7-7 and needed help to get into the playoffs and caught some breaks and got in. Then they played good ball essential using the playoffs as a brand new lease on life getting to the AFCC before losing.
    -2009 Q1 = .750, Q2 = .250, Q3 = .500, Q4 = .750

    At 12 weeks into the 2010 season the Jets were 9-2 before finishing by losing 3 of the last 5 and riding the first half success into the playoffs, again kudos to the Jets for using the playoffs as a new lease on life and playing solid ball before getting bounced in the AFCC.
    -2010 Q1 = .750, Q2 = .750, Q3 = .750 and Q4 = .500
    In 2011 the Jets played Q1 = .500 Q2 = .750 Q3 = .500 and Q4 = .250

    This is clearly not the play of an elite football team, they played up past their potential when making the playoffs but the fact of the matter is still the same, in 09 they needed help and played two teams in the final weeks who rested starters, in 2010 they rode the first half success and in 2011 they were widely inconsistent.

    Out of the 12 total quarters over the past three years the Jets have had six at .750, four at .500 and two at .250 now compare that to the Patriots who have played one quarter at .250 and one quarter of .500 ball the rest are all .750 and above.

    LOL!! Come on bro, I hate the Jets as much as anyone, but this is crazy. The Jets played in 2 straight AFCC games. By default this means that during those seasons they were one of the top 2 teams in the AFC. They lost those games so they were 2nd...behind the eventual Super Bowl teams, Colts and Steelers. Ask the 2011 Packers, 2011 Saints, and 2007 Patriots if they would rather win more regular season games or playoff games and then sk them if they feel they were the best teams in the NFL those seasons. Currently...the 2 best teams in the NFL are the Patriots and Giants. Period. Last week the 2 best teams in the AFC were the Ravens and Patriots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisHanson View Post
    LOL!! Come on bro, I hate the Jets as much as anyone, but this is crazy. The Jets played in 2 straight AFCC games. By default this means that during those seasons they were one of the top 2 teams in the AFC. They lost those games so they were 2nd...behind the eventual Super Bowl teams, Colts and Steelers. Ask the 2011 Packers, 2011 Saints, and 2007 Patriots if they would rather win more regular season games or playoff games and then sk them if they feel they were the best teams in the NFL those seasons. Currently...the 2 best teams in the NFL are the Patriots and Giants. Period. Last week the 2 best teams in the AFC were the Ravens and Patriots.
    The Jets made the best of their playoff chance much like the Giants, it doesn't mean they are the best team. Don't be blinded by the AFC championship games, I get the fact that getting in the playoffs is more important than how you got there, trust me I get it.


    Bur I also know that "elite" is a world that is used far to often in the NFL these days. There are two truly "elite" teams right now and for arguments sake let's define "elite". Elite = dynasty in terms of multiple Super Bowl Championships (the ultimate prize). Only two New England and Pittsburgh, end of discussion, the only two teams to win multiple times within the last ten seasons.

    Now for arguments sake the next beast team in that ten year span would actually be the Giants and Colts since they are the only two other teams to make multiple trips in that span.

    Spin it how you want, if the Jets where on the "elite" level they would have made an appearance by now but even in their best season under Rex they faultered down the stretch, the Jets are no better than the Eagles or San Diego on any level and have proven just as much, they are a good football team with talent that can win when it counts but never able to seal the deal, it is what it is.

    You want to be considered in the top 2 teams of either division than come on brother you better make at least one trip to the show until then take your seat with the B teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NY8123 View Post
    The Jets made the best of their playoff chance much like the Giants, it doesn't mean they are the best team. Don't be blinded by the AFC championship games, I get the fact that getting in the playoffs is more important than how you got there, trust me I get it.


    Bur I also know that "elite" is a world that is used far to often in the NFL these days. There are two truly "elite" teams right now and for arguments sake let's define "elite". Elite = dynasty in terms of multiple Super Bowl Championships (the ultimate prize). Only two New England and Pittsburgh, end of discussion, the only two teams to win multiple times within the last ten seasons.

    Now for arguments sake the next beast team in that ten year span would actually be the Giants and Colts since they are the only two other teams to make multiple trips in that span.

    Spin it how you want, if the Jets where on the "elite" level they would have made an appearance by now but even in their best season under Rex they faultered down the stretch, the Jets are no better than the Eagles or San Diego on any level and have proven just as much, they are a good football team with talent that can win when it counts but never able to seal the deal, it is what it is.

    You want to be considered in the top 2 teams of either division than come on brother you better make at least one trip to the show until then take your seat with the B teams.
    NE's dynasty ended a long time ago, how can a team that didn't win a playoff game for 3 years be elite? THIS year they are but the last 3 years? Nope, you have to have playoff success to be elite.

    One championship game I can write off as fluky but 2? and doing it back to back? that wasn't a fluke, we also beat the 2 hottest teams in the AFC on the road in the div rd each year.

    '09 and '10 the Jets were elite, this year we took a step back but even including this year the Jets are still the only team in the NFL to make 2 title games the past 3 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    NE's dynasty ended a long time ago, how can a team that didn't win a playoff game for 3 years be elite? THIS year they are but the last 3 years? Nope, you have to have playoff success to be elite.

    One championship game I can write off as fluky but 2? and doing it back to back? that wasn't a fluke, we also beat the 2 hottest teams in the AFC on the road in the div rd each year.

    '09 and '10 the Jets were elite, this year we took a step back but even including this year the Jets are still the only team in the NFL to make 2 title games the past 3 years.
    I believe they are in the Super Bowl this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Ravens won that game?


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    Joe Flacco got to go against a lousy Patriots defense that had a wide receiver playing DB lol. Why didn't Flacco pick on him? Because Joe Flacco is an average QB. Why didn't Joe run for that first down at the end of the game on 3rd and 1? Instead he forces a bad pass. He's an average NFL QB.

    Tom Brady had to face an elite NFL defense and his best weapon is Wes Welker. Welker had 53 yards because Baltimore is one of the best team's in the league at taking away the middle of the field. They do this because they have Ed Reed playing safety back there. One man who can take away the deep ball. We all knew Brady wasn't going to do to Baltimore what he did to Denver. He won't do it to New York either.

    By your own admission, it had nothing to do with Brady, and it really didnt. He SUCKED. He threw 2 INT's and should've been three if not given his usually call.
    He constantly missed wide open TE's down the seam, and he got outplayed by Flako.


    Can't have it both ways brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Confessor View Post
    By your own admission, it had nothing to do with Brady, and it really didnt. He SUCKED. He threw 2 INT's and should've been three if not given his usually call.
    He constantly missed wide open TE's down the seam, and he got outplayed by Flako.


    Can't have it both ways brother.
    Ok, elite QBs never have a bad game? EVER?

    It's ONE game lol. ONE. Quarterbacks in this league struggle against great defenses all the time. But offense dominates the league. But I said all year long that New England is AGAIN the most overrated team in the league and they were and still are. Baltimore SHOULD have won that game. But they didn't for a variety of offensive reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Patriots are AGAIN vastly overrated. They can't get anyone off the field on third down. SAME problems they had last season and the SAME problems they'll have this season.

    And for the record, I predicted the Bills would beat the Patriots FOR THE VERY REASONS that happened.

    Am I ****ing good or what?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Ok, elite QBs never have a bad game? EVER?

    It's ONE game lol. ONE. Quarterbacks in this league struggle against great defenses all the time. But offense dominates the league. But I said all year long that New England is AGAIN the most overrated team in the league and they were and still are. Baltimore SHOULD have won that game. But they didn't for a variety of offensive reasons.
    Please explain why the Fruity Niners beat New Orleans and the Gints are in the Superbowl????
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