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Thread: *** OFFICIAL Eli Manning Worship Thread ***

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    Well, he could be like his brother and go to the playoffs every year and sacrifice Super Bowl titles. Or go to the playoffs every year like john beck and not win a game at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    Eli does look elite at times but the real elite QBs you know what you will get every week and w/ the astounding talent he has on O to be up and down as much as Eli is there's just no way he's an elite QB.


    and JetLife Stadium looks so much better in green and white but it is a terrible stadium.
    He's more elite than the Jets have never been.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Well, he could be like his brother and go to the playoffs every year and sacrifice Super Bowl titles. Or go to the playoffs every year like john beck and not win a game at all.
    he's the opposite of his brother. Peyton is a great reg season QB and mediocre postseason QB, Eli is mediocre/good in the reg season and great in postseason. Unfortunately he doesn't make it enough to win enough. Elite QBs have their teams in postseason nearly every year and win postseason games in more than 2 postseasons in their careers.
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    So we're just gonna overlook those two Super Bowl titles then.

    Got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    So we're just gonna overlook those two Super Bowl titles then.

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    Nope, he did a great job in those 2 runs and was provided w/ elite level defense to back him up. That doesn't make him elite. Elite QBs don't miss 3 postseasons in 4 years unless a team is rebuilding around him. The Giants clearly have not been rebuilding around him, they have big time talent and coaching, the shortcoming has ben the inconsistency at QB.
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    Toughest division in the league, though. That has to account for something. Not to mention that the NFC is far and away superior to the AFC. The other divisions of the NFC are typically weaker than the NFC East. Didn't Seattle make the playoffs a few seasons ago with a losing record lol? So sad. In the past four seasons, all four of the NFC East teams have won the division. A 9-7 record in the NFC is equivalent to a 12-4 record in the pitiful AFC. Imagine if the Giants were in the AFC. They'd be in the playoffs every single year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Toughest division in the league, though. That has to account for something. Not to mention that the NFC is far and away superior to the AFC. The other divisions of the NFC are typically weaker than the NFC East. Didn't Seattle make the playoffs a few seasons ago with a losing record lol? So sad. In the past four seasons, all four of the NFC East teams have won the division. A 9-7 record in the NFC is equivalent to a 12-4 record in the pitiful AFC. Imagine if the Giants were in the AFC. They'd be in the playoffs every single year.
    toughest division? it stunk last year when they snuck in at 9-7, it was awful most of this year until washington got on a roll but keep in mind Wash was 5-1 in the div and only 5-5 outside the division. The division was NOT tough at all.

    The Giants went 1-3 against the AFC w/ their lone win over Cleveland in a game Cle led 17-7.

    The Giants wouldn't have made the playoffs in the AFC East last year b/c they would never beat out NE and they wouldn't have won enough for a WC

    their 2007 team wouldn't have made the playoffs in the AFC. The NFC just recently became the better conference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Toughest division in the league, though. That has to account for something. Not to mention that the NFC is far and away superior to the AFC. The other divisions of the NFC are typically weaker than the NFC East. Didn't Seattle make the playoffs a few seasons ago with a losing record lol? So sad. In the past four seasons, all four of the NFC East teams have won the division. A 9-7 record in the NFC is equivalent to a 12-4 record in the pitiful AFC. Imagine if the Giants were in the AFC. They'd be in the playoffs every single year.
    Remember when the AFC East used to be the toughest division in football. Sigh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    he's the opposite of his brother. Peyton is a great reg season QB and mediocre postseason QB, Eli is mediocre/good in the reg season and great in postseason. Unfortunately he doesn't make it enough to win enough. Elite QBs have their teams in postseason nearly every year and win postseason games in more than 2 postseasons in their careers.
    not to mention that 3 of the seasons hes made the playoffs were with records of 8-8, and the other 2 were 9-7. medicore to slightly above avg, a record that many teams miss playoffs with.

    hes a good qb, but not elite. elite qb's are consistent, the fact that every week ppl have to ask whether the good eli manning or bad eli manning is going to show up is all u need to know.

    as u said, he has played well enough in the playoffs during the superbowl run, but i find it amazing how people just continue to forget that without that defense, the giants do not win any superbowls. eli manning in both superbowls did not carry that team to the win, he made just the right amount of plays, but did not need to do to much.

    the first superbowl vs the pats, the giants offense led by eli manning had 3 pts going into the 4th qtr. this, against a patriot team that was avg a sick amount of ppg during the season. there is not 1 person who would have thought the giants could win the game period, let alone if they had 3 pts going into the 4th. thankfully, the giants defensive line was ****ing awesome that game, hitting brady all day long and keep the pats lethal offense in check. that was the only reason the giants were even in that game and eli manning after throwing 2 should be picks on the final drive, took advantage of the 3rd opp and delivered again though, scoring 17 pts vs the pats that season, most teams get obliterated the fact that the giants won that game with 17 pts was due to one of the better performances on defense in superbowl history considering the opponent. giants d line deserved mvp that game, not manning.

    superbowl 2 vs the pats, he was a bit better, but they still scored only 19 pts offensivly ( the other 2 was from a safety). he was solid that game though, and although not great, did enough.

    how anyone can watch his career play and say he is elite, i dont know how. he is good, but elite is brady, peyton, rodgers, not eli.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Toughest division in the league, though. That has to account for something. Not to mention that the NFC is far and away superior to the AFC. The other divisions of the NFC are typically weaker than the NFC East. Didn't Seattle make the playoffs a few seasons ago with a losing record lol? So sad. In the past four seasons, all four of the NFC East teams have won the division. A 9-7 record in the NFC is equivalent to a 12-4 record in the pitiful AFC. Imagine if the Giants were in the AFC. They'd be in the playoffs every single year.
    the nfc has been the worse conference for the majority of eli mannings career. just recently has the nfc become better, and even when we say better, i dont know how much better it is.

    the afc used to be a lot better than the nfc, and it was not even close. even today, in the afc playoffs u got 2 teams who are arguably the best teams in the nfl in denver and the pats, and i believe the ravens are vastly underrated.

    who in the nfc is very scary? they may have a few more average teams than the afc, but overall, the nfc is not even close to as strong against the afc as the afc was strong compared to the nfc recently.
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