"Martining" things is no way to go through life.
Don't be a Martin.
Didn't I tell you guys he'd have no trouble at all coming up with a way to discredit Eli?
Good grief at the **** I've read here.
If Eli is elite how come he couldn't win more than 10 games w/ a SB championshiop team in 2007 and 9 games this year? shouldn't an elite QB be winning more games? especially w/ that talent?
Average QBs don't beat elite QBs TWICE in Super Bowls. Average QBs don't win Super Bowls anymore.
The only way your "argument" could be any worse is if we auto-tuned it.
with a Shoutout to dShifty:
again "elite teams" don't go 7-7 (with wins against sub .400 teams) and be gifted through the backdoor into the playoffs, and go 8-8 in between a decent season where they still did not even win their division. "Elite" teams actually win 2 conference titles in 4 years instead of bragging about contending for them, make it to 2 superbowls and actually win them. There's only one "elite team" in the NY metro area and it sure ain't the baby brother. And as far as the 2 time SB MVP, there's a helluva lot more justification to label him as "elite" compared to the other team who essentially squats in his stadium
Congrats to the Gianyts and Eli, they earned their title. Eli was really good and the team played their best football when it mattered most. Eli had his best year by far(depsite not putting up his best #s) and if he continues to play like this I'll consider him elite rather than one good year in '08 then another good one in '11. An elite QB would not be winning 10 and 9 games w/ those 2 SB teams.