I don't slight Eli, I give him proper credit.
Eli had 5.4 YPA, buttfumble 7.1
buttfumble was better at Pitt in '10, his D/STs didn't help him the way Eli's did.
heh, comparing buttfumble to Eli is like comparing Rue Paul to Celine Dion. A better comparison would be buttfumble vs Moore considering they both had .500 records, although Moore had the pressure of salvaging his career for a dispirited, winless team and buttfumble, as players asserted, was coddled with no pressure of being replaced. However, comparing their relative TD to Int ratio, completion percent, QBR, YPC and that recent efficiency rating posted here, buttfumble even pales by those comparisons. However, I'll concede that at this point that Moore and buttfumble may be close although Moore's numbers suggest otherwise, but please don't try to make a comparison of either to Eli.. at least at this point.
Interestingly, this is recent verbatim from a JI critic of buttfumble on a similar attempted comparison to Eli over there:
Dallas - 1 yard TD "drive" after a buttfumble pick (basically a pick 6)Buffalo - 20 yard TD "drive" after a buttfumble pick
Philly - 17 yard TD "drive" after a buttfumble fumble
NYG - 19 yard TD "drive" after a buttfumble fumble
NE - Ninkovich 12 yard INT return for TD
Den - Goodman 26 yard INT return for TD
Bal - Webb 73 yard INT return for TD
NYG- buttfumble tackled in end zone
Bal - buttfumble strip sack, 6 yard TD return
Bal - buttfumble strip sack, 26 yard TD return
buttfumble killed the Jets this year.
Junc, did you even watch the 9ers game? If so youre either blind, retarded or both. Eli got PUMMELED by the best defense in the league. Just pounded. He drug himself off the ground as much as any QB youll ever see. Yet he still stayed calm focused and won the game.
Your excuse for buttfumble is always the line. And its true, buttfumble blows the minute hes pressured. Put buttfumble in Eli's shoes that day and he is sitting puting on the bench feeling sorry for himself. Thats a fact.
I can admit the Giants were better than us this year, they beat us and won a SB. Do I think there is a huge gap? No but they were definitely better.
And? Score more 24 points to beat Pittsburgh and you win. Since they didn't, that's on the offense. Your defense isn't always going to keep you in the game.Actually the Jets D allowed 17 pts, Pitt scored on a fumble return but it's not just the actual pts. The D allowed Pitt to control that game from the start allowing a long TD drive to set the tone. When the O got back to w/in a score at 24-19 w/ plenty of time left all the D had to do was not allow Pitt to get 2 1st downs and they couldn't. Compare that w/ the Giants who had to stop SF from getting a FG for 3 straight possessions in the 4th qtr/OT, if they didn't SF would have won. The Giant D played MUCH better than the Jet D.
He is elite and he did deserve the awards. You say Peyton is a notorious choker (who also didn't deserve his MVP) in his whole career and Archie didn't do anything of significance in his, so what is this Manning name you speak of? You're acting like the name is a farce and these guys haven't done anything to deserve being respected.He's not elite, that's not a knock on him. he's still a very good QB but he's not elite and he didn't deserve his SB MVP awards, got them b/c he is a QB and a QB named Manning.