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Thread: NFL Network: Dolphins should stick with Matt Moore as QB

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    How the f**k is that guy an analyst/ expert (whatever he is?). I can do a better job than him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phanatical View Post
    Sophomore slump? Go look at his 2009 highlight reels and 2011 highlight reels. Moore played pretty danged good. He's got a good long ball and was hitting Steve Smith all over the field, just like he was hitting Marshall last year. I think he is going to be better than Flynn ever will be.
    I don't think he has the arm or the accuracy needed to be a starter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phanatical View Post
    Sophomore slump? Go look at his 2009 highlight reels and 2011 highlight reels. Moore played pretty danged good. He's got a good long ball and was hitting Steve Smith all over the field, just like he was hitting Marshall last year. I think he is going to be better than Flynn ever will be.
    mostly agree. The problem is that Manning, RG3, and Flynn will all cost a crap load of money or picks and I just think the risk vs reward ratio is not worth it. Winning superbowls means not over paying people so that there is more money to go around. Look at the redskins. They get hyped up every year with big signings only to suck because they don't have the cap to spread the money around. If you give Marino 30 million dollars a year it doesn't matter how good he is because he won't have enough good players around him to win. Like most things in life it's all about balance and over paying on risky candidates throws the balance off.
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    I dont think we can force the issue on the quarterback position. We cannot give up our draft for one player, or overpay for an old washed up player. Moore is not a franchise qb but he was 7-3 (or 6-3) last year with the right side of the offensive line a sieve, and a coaching staff on a respirator. I think he has earned another shot. Draft a qb this year - Weeden/Tannehill/dude from Boise, but dont mortgage the future. I think our first pick, barring a trade up or down, should focus on either a stud pass rusher or a stud guard/tackle - Upshaw/Coples or DeCastro/Reiff - I lean o-line...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mega-fin-love View Post
    mostly agree. The problem is that Manning, RG3, and Flynn will all cost a crap load of money or picks and I just think the risk vs reward ratio is worth it. Winning superbowls means not over paying people so that there is more money to go around. Look at the redskins. They get hyped up every year with big signings only to suck because they don't have the cap to spread the money around. If you give Marino 30 million dollars a year it doesn't matter how good he is because he won't have enough good players around him to win. Like most things in life it's all about balance and over paying on risky candidates throws the balance off.
    Manning has already said he will agree to an incentive based contract so we know if we pay money we will be getting a franchise QB for 2-3 years.

    And the Redskins are a bad analysis, QB is a completely different thing than signing an old Deion Sanders or a lazy DT to big money. QB changes everything about your team and would be worth every penny if he paid off. And if we put a prime Marino on this team he would have multiple rings guaranteed, we have a top 10 defense and A running back that would relieve the pressure for him, and his mobility would be enough to get passed our OL especially since his quick release and great vision would lessen the amount of sacks on him.
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    ****in lol'd when he said "Brandon Marshall BECAME that #1 receiver".
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    Quote Originally Posted by jason_taylor View Post
    i agree 100% ..........DADDY LMAO
    I think that COLUMBO/CAREY cost MIAMI at least 5 games that should've been "W"s: 4 w/MOORE at QB (DALLAS, NY GIANTS, DENVER and PATRIOTS II) and 1 w/HENNE (CLEVELAND). Given that HOUSTON and SD were 6 point losses, that "W" count might even be higher. I feel that at the least, MOORE earned a 10-2 record, if it weren't for COLUMBO/CAREY. That's w/ no preseason worth mentioning, "back-up QB's reps" until HENNE went down, and a dufus/assistant dufus in SPARANO/ROSS, who gave us the COLUMBO/CAREY fiasco when we should have gotten any one of 5 or 6 VERY solid F/A Gs (I still remember 4: BOTH of ATLANTA's starting Gs, GALLERY, and COLLEDGE), and left CAREY, a serviceable veteran RT who was-and-is about 100x better than COLUMBO, at RT where he belongs. MIAMI's OL would have been LONG, whichever F/A, POUNCEY, INCOGNITO (at RG where he really belongs), and CAREY, instead of the p-o-s we ended up with!!!

    I'll bet that FLYNN never had to cope w/s*"t like THAT!!! I/m/o, RIGHT AFTER stupid ROSS fired our "OL Guru" SPARANO, he should have fired HIMSELF.

    Despite all of the pure crapola that MOORE had to deal with, plus the ALBATROSS named COLUMBO/CAREY hanging around his neck, and plus the 2nd Albatross named SPARANO/ROSS hanging around his neck, and the lingering stench of "PARCELLSBALL", MOORE STILL put MIAMI in a position that it could've-and-should've gone 10-2 w/him at QB (and at least 1-3 w/HENNE at QB). Playoffs? YES!!!

    MOORE showed accuracy, especially deep and in the mid-range (maybe that's why MIAMI was so highly ranked in pass completions over 20 Yards last season), "touch" passes (e.g., those "circle" routes to R BUSH), mobility, smart play, and leadership. I/m/o., he singlehandedly resurrected FASANO's pass-catching career, and did some good work w/CLAY as well: to such an extent that i/m/o, it showed that MIAMI doesn't NEED at TE...just a QB and OC who know how to use a TE!

    Yet, MIAMI's going crazy trying to "buy" a Franchise QB. Well, i/m/o, MIAMI already HAS one, and his name is MOORE. But MIAMI has MOORE under contract only thru 2012. So if MIAMI isn't careful, MOORE will be a F/A after this season, and some SMARTER NFL Franchise will say "Thank you very much, MIAMI", and take him right from under our noses. And we, the "DOLFAN NATION" will get reemed up our a**es...AGAIN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CallMeDaddy View Post
    Manning has already said he will agree to an incentive based contract so we know if we pay money we will be getting a franchise QB for 2-3 years.

    And the Redskins are a bad analysis, QB is a completely different thing than signing an old Deion Sanders or a lazy DT to big money. QB changes everything about your team and would be worth every penny if he paid off. And if we put a prime Marino on this team he would have multiple rings guaranteed, we have a top 10 defense and A running back that would relieve the pressure for him, and his mobility would be enough to get passed our OL especially since his quick release and great vision would lessen the amount of sacks on him.
    You just made my point for me. If we had Marino in his prime then we wouldn't have a top 10 or a stud runner. That's why he never had either of those. We paid Marino so much money that we couldn't afford those things. Had Marino taken a pay cut like some QB's have done then he would have won at least 1 superbowl. Sad truth
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    Quote Originally Posted by mega-fin-love View Post
    You just made my point for me. If we had Marino in his prime then we wouldn't have a top 10 or a stud runner. That's why he never had either of those. We paid Marino so much money that we couldn't afford those things. Had Marino taken a pay cut like some QB's have done then he would have won at least 1 superbowl. Sad truth
    We have enough money to get Manning or Flynn right now, so there's not "we're never going to have this or that player." If we have a franchise QB with this team right now we are a playoff team and super bowl contenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob19 View Post
    ****in lol'd when he said "Brandon Marshall BECAME that #1 receiver".
    Finally beat out Brian Hartline, tough competition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CallMeDaddy View Post
    We have enough money to get Manning or Flynn right now, so there's not "we're never going to have this or that player." If we have a franchise QB with this team right now we are a playoff team and super bowl contenders.

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    Finally beat out Brian Hartline, tough competition.
    If there was a less risky option then I would say go for it. Rg3 will cost us several picks and a lot of money. Flynn is a nightmare waiting to happen. Dude will get franchise QB money after only playing 2 games. Manning is a decent option assuming that his contract is entirely based on what he does. Still rather stick with Moore. He is young and playing well despite our crap line, out of shape players, and awful coaching
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