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    Richardson is a strong man....I like him more than RB Mark Ingram, who won the Heisman at 'Bama. We probably will have to move Daniel Thomas then. I think if we are there are #8/#9 and don't have a huge need guy on the board then we should take our fully allotted time and see if we can maybe trade down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Confessor View Post
    Okay, here we go again.

    RB's are a dime a dozen.

    The leading rushers in the NFL this last season, and where they were drafted:

    Maurice Jones-Drew Round 2-pick 60
    Arian Foster- UDFA
    Fred Jackson-UDFA
    Darren McFadden 1st round pick 5
    LeSean McCoy-Round 2 pick 53
    Ray Rice-Round 2 pick 55
    Michael Turner-Round 5 Pick 154
    Matt Forte-Round 2 Pick 44



    RB's are a dime a dozen, and I am FAR from sold on Richardson as being worthy of a top 15 pick. Far far from it.
    RB's are a dime a dozen, but elite RB's arent.

    I think the better question to ask is how would those teams be without the RB's you mentioned? They would most likely be bottom half offenses, much like Miami was. Those RB's pretty much carried those teams.
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    What would we do with Bush then? Have him go back to 3rd downs, passing situations, punt returns, and wideout? It' not just about talent, it's also about fit. I think we could make him fit but there would be changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zounds View Post
    RB's are a dime a dozen, but elite RB's arent.

    I think the better question to ask is how would those teams be without the RB's you mentioned? They would most likely be bottom half offenses, much like Miami was. Those RB's pretty much carried those teams.
    mcfadden, hurt
    foster hurt
    jackson hurt
    forte hurt.....

    bush filled in for mcfadden nicely. tate was a great fill in, who rushed great when he got the carries. cj spiller came on at the end of the year... so with the exception of forte, I don't think many dropped off too badly.

    we've already gone the 1st round runningback route. I'd rather fill another need with that selection, and if they are dead set on a RB, which I don't think they are even though they signed the CFLer... I'd look at it in round two, where there is still some very good talent.

    IF they did take a RB round two, I think DT gets moved. 2nd round RB's might include david wilson, lamar miller, and doug martin.

    I'd much rather fill the need of another pass rusher in the first than take a rb...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichmondWeb View Post
    What would we do with Bush then? Have him go back to 3rd downs, passing situations, punt returns, and wideout? It' not just about talent, it's also about fit. I think we could make him fit but there would be changes.

    RW
    You need at least 2 good running backs in today's league, that's just a fact. I haven't seen anything in Thomas to make me think he's a good starter, probably because he was injured all the time (which was a concern when we drafted him given his run style).

    That being said, you can get good RBs anywhere. I like Richardson, but I hate taking a RB in the top ten almost as much as I hate taking linemen.





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    I'd be okay with it, honestly. I don't think we're good enough to draft solely off need right now. BPA all the way, and Richardson at #9 is a steal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zounds View Post
    RB's are a dime a dozen, but elite RB's arent.

    I think the better question to ask is how would those teams be without the RB's you mentioned? They would most likely be bottom half offenses, much like Miami was. Those RB's pretty much carried those teams.
    You're missing my point.

    Of all the top RB's in the league..very very very few were taken in the first round.

    New England features two pretty darn good RB's...and they are both UDFA
    Houston has one of the very best RB's in the league..and again, he is an UDFA
    The vast majority of successful RB's the last 5 seasons have been drafted in the 4th round and later.
    We already have a glorified 1st rounder in Bush. Spending that high a pick on another is NOT a good idea.

    Here's food for thought:
    Any team is only going to get so many running plays, and with our new coach and system, that number is probably going to go way way down.
    Reggie Bush showed what he can do this last season if showcased in the right offense. He looked pretty damn good.
    Now then, we spend a top 10 on an RB's and two detrimental things are going to happen:

    A) Said Rookie is NOT going to get many touches. Not nearly enough to warrant a top 10 pick. He's not going to play special teams either, so his value per touch goes way down.
    B) Any touches he does get takes away from Bush, and as I mentioned, he showed exactly what can happen when he gets enough touches.


    IF we were another RB away from being really great, then it would be a pick I might consider
    WE have many much more pressing needs including, and in no particular order (Well, kind've)
    RT
    Pass rusher opposite Cam Wake (Denver did pretty damn good defensively now that they have somebody across from Dummerville, and I do attribute their success this last year to Von Miller more than even Tebow)
    QB
    TE- A true seam busting TE
    FS- We all know that we have never had that true ballhawk back there. That instantly shores up the CB spot as they can read and react better with help over the top.


    Picking another RB top 10 would make about as much sense as picking another LT or Center right now............
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Confessor View Post
    You're missing my point.

    Of all the top RB's in the league..very very very few were taken in the first round.
    As much as you want to believe it, that is simply just not true.

    9 out of the top 15 RB's in rushing yards last year were drafted in the first round, and that doesn't even include injured running backs like Adrian Peterson, Reshard Mendenhall, and Darren McFadden. If those guys weren't injured, you are probably see that an overwhelming majority of the top RB's were drafted in the 1st round. That's all I have to add to this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zounds View Post
    As much as you want to believe it, that is simply just not true.

    9 out of the top 15 RB's in rushing yards last year were drafted in the first round, and that doesn't even include injured running backs like Adrian Peterson, Reshard Mendenhall, and Darren McFadden. If those guys weren't injured, you are probably see that an overwhelming majority of the top RB's were drafted in the 1st round. That's all I have to add to this discussion.
    How many of the top 5 RBs were taken in the first round? You're skewing the stats
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