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Thread: How does Pat Devlin fit into the offense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaark View Post
    To the contrary.. it was Moore who got deprived of a fair open competition with Henne in TC; had there been one we may have been competing for that backdoor entry to the playoffs in game 16 instead of being the jest spoiler.

    And as far as wanting Orton goes, more than half of us agreed with the 90% or more of the polled Broncos fans who wanted no part of the guy they called "Three and Out Orton" with a 61 career 3rd down QBR. Hell, excavating Jeff Garcia would have been preferable to giving up any draft picks and taking a cap hit for Orton. As it were, there were suggestive threads about Moore at that time pointing out his concussion-influenced bad 2010 may have had an effect turning around his impressive 09, so he was no dark horse or surprise and relative the acquision and cap costs compared to Orton, he was a buy. Oh and Moore happened to win 6 out of his final 9 with 15TDs and 5Ints with the 12th best QBR and one of top long ball efficiency ratings in the league.

    Now, as much as anyone, I was for giving Devlin a shot, but throwing Moore of all people under the bus in comparison to Henne, let alone Orton, is purple koolade, or haterade-worthy.
    Moore got to at least be the 2nd QB without having to compete for that. He played most of the whole preseason minutes. Moore would have done no better than Henne. Moore woudn't have beat New England, Houston, and Sandiego in our first 3 games especially when our defense was playing sloppy. Henne passed for over 400 yards agains New England in game 1. I'm not hating on throwing Moore under the bus, he just isn't "NFL ready." He can't compete when the game is on the line nor compete under pressure. He won 3 out of his final 6 games (only beating the poor teams). Everyone says that if Devlin was any good he would have got his chance--but that is making the assumption that Sparano and Ireland know what they are doing...besides he was only a rookie. YOu could say that same thing for Flynn who took 4 years to get into a game. But I think Devlin can't be any worse than Moore right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BG12DM13CP10 View Post
    Moore got to at least be the 2nd QB without having to compete for that. He played most of the whole preseason minutes. Moore would have done no better than Henne. Moore woudn't have beat New England, Houston, and Sandiego in our first 3 games especially when our defense was playing sloppy. Henne passed for over 400 yards agains New England in game 1. I'm not hating on throwing Moore under the bus, he just isn't "NFL ready." He can't compete when the game is on the line nor compete under pressure. He won 3 out of his final 6 games (only beating the poor teams). Everyone says that if Devlin was any good he would have got his chance--but that is making the assumption that Sparano and Ireland know what they are doing...besides he was only a rookie. YOu could say that same thing for Flynn who took 4 years to get into a game. But I think Devlin can't be any worse than Moore right now.
    Give it up Talking to Vaark about Moore, anything you say negative against Moore (and there is a lot to say) has to be for some other reason than his generic, uninspired, clutchless, pedestrian play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 67Stang View Post
    Give it up Talking to Vaark about Moore, anything you say negative against Moore (and there is a lot to say) has to be for some other reason than his generic, uninspired, clutchless, pedestrian play.
    I have no problem getting a new starter this offseason, but to say lets start Devlin and see what happens is just not A good idea at all. Devlin is not any better than Moore, Moore is going to be a great backup for us and for a good price too.

    Lets go get Manning, Flynn, RGIII, Tannehill or whoever it is we get and have Moore as our backup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 67Stang View Post
    Give it up Talking to Vaark about Moore, anything you say negative against Moore (and there is a lot to say) has to be for some other reason than his generic, uninspired, clutchless, pedestrian play.
    Ahh, one of the Henne Heinie Huggers is back. (imagine it! this criticism coming from the guy who up until the day Henne was shelved was making excuses for him - literally, and throwing everyone else under the bus as at fault). The guys who are favorably comparing the QB who went 1-8/0-6 (not even counting the '11 SD start) while trashing the one who went 6-3 or even 3-3 if we're using that comparison, better not drive with those beer goggles on (especially vintage autos ) Go figure.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaark View Post
    Ahh, one of the Henne Heinie Huggers is back. (imagine it! this criticism coming from the guy who up until the day Henne was shelved was making excuses for him - literally, and throwing everyone else under the bus as at fault). The guys who are favorably comparing the QB who went 1-8/0-6 (not even counting the '11 SD start) while trashing the one who went 6-3 or even 3-3 if we're using that comparison, better not drive with those beer goggles on (especially vintage autos ) Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaark View Post
    Ahh, one of the Henne Heinie Huggers is back. (imagine it! this criticism coming from the guy who up until the day Henne was shelved was making excuses for him - literally, and throwing everyone else under the bus as at fault). The guys who are favorably comparing the QB who went 1-8/0-6 (not even counting the '11 SD start) while trashing the one who went 6-3 or even 3-3 if we're using that comparison, better not drive with those beer goggles on (especially vintage autos ) Go figure.
    Thanks for making my point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 67Stang View Post
    Thanks for making my point!
    If your point was that you've been exactly as "objective" about Henne until the instant he went down as you've subsequently been about Moore from the time he took over, then I'm happy to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaark View Post
    If your point was that you've been exactly as "objective" about Henne until the instant he went down as you've subsequently been about Moore from the time he took over, then I'm happy to help.
    I just find it comical that you point out positives about Moore like his College play and then don't do Devlin the same. Then you talk about the positive cutouts of Moore and leave out the negatives. IE you talk about Hennes home record and don't mention his road record, and do the opposite with Moore. Henne won 7 games in 2010 with a much worse offense and actually won games against teams with winning records and won games with his play at the end.....somerthing Moore failed to do and actually lost 3 games with his fumbles.

    Funny thing is you actually think you are objective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CallMeDaddy View Post
    I have no problem getting a new starter this offseason, but to say lets start Devlin and see what happens is just not A good idea at all. Devlin is not any better than Moore, Moore is going to be a great backup for us and for a good price too.

    Lets go get Manning, Flynn, RGIII, Tannehill or whoever it is we get and have Moore as our backup.
    We don't need a #2 QB whose only use is to be a solid "backup." Our #2 should be a guy who might be our #1 one day. In fact our #2 and #3 QBs this year should be someone whom we hope could turn into our Starter. That's why Matt Moore is a wasted roster space at QB. At least with Devlin there is potential, but none with Moore. They were both undrafted, but Devlin was BY FAR the better college player. Why wouldn't he have as much potential in the NFL as Moore? Moore was lucky to have his opportunity, hopefully Devlin will get his opportunity then we'll see.
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