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Thread: Sports Buzz: Dolphins want a vertical offense and notes on Misi, 4-3 MLB's

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    Sports Buzz: Dolphins want a vertical offense and notes on Misi, 4-3 MLB's

    Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland said coach Joe Philbin wants an offense that will “go vertical, get the ball out quickly, spread it around to a lot of different players.” But Miami must adjust if Peyton Manning signs, because as Brian Billick said, “Why would you bring him in and not do what he does best?” But a Manning associate said he believes Manning would be receptive to blending in some of Philbin’s and Mike Sherman’s elements.

    The Dolphins have told at least four people they want to play a 4-3 defense primarily, with some 3-4, and would be comfortable Karlos Dansby, Kevin Burnett or Koa Misi manning the middle. Ireland has raved about the potential of Dansby in that role, but Misi has good instincts for the spot, too.

    Among the half dozen players linked to the Dolphins with the No. 8 pick, South Carolina linebacker/end Melvin Ingram helped himself at the NFL Combine and Alabama linebacker Courtney Upshaw hurt himself, with lack of explosiveness. But Ireland said he had his draft board set before the Combine “because they’re not playing football. They’re just running around in shorts.”

    Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sport...#storylink=cpy
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    Nothing new here. ...
    If Peyton sign, we adjust to him.
    We will run the hybrid 3/4 - 4/3.
    This draft has a poor crop of pass rushing DE's/OLB's this year.
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    nice to at least know that irelands board doesnt change a whole lot due to the combine.

    reading that just off hand, it makes you think you can definately dismiss kuechly as a potential pick, unless of course its the smokescreen type stuff... lol

    more and more everyday I just get more confused with what direction we are going to go in the draft whether it be a defensive LB, rusher or otherwise, or a offensive lineman, or offensive playmaker... maybe I should give ireland kudos for that... or i just overanalyze perhaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2413fanphins View Post
    nice to at least know that irelands board doesnt change a whole lot due to the combine.

    reading that just off hand, it makes you think you can definately dismiss kuechly as a potential pick, unless of course its the smokescreen type stuff... lol

    more and more everyday I just get more confused with what direction we are going to go in the draft whether it be a defensive LB, rusher or otherwise, or a offensive lineman, or offensive playmaker... maybe I should give ireland kudos for that... or i just overanalyze perhaps.
    I agree about the smokescreen. Not much is being discussed about Keuchly. I can see a scenario where we would take him. Nowadays, the staff deliberately send out misinformation and mixed signals on purpose. I think Ireland want to improve the defense, and Keuchly makes sense at #8.
    I would prefer an offensive play maker, but me thinks the pick will be defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2413fanphins View Post
    nice to at least know that irelands board doesnt change a whole lot due to the combine.

    reading that just off hand, it makes you think you can definately dismiss kuechly as a potential pick, unless of course its the smokescreen type stuff... lol

    more and more everyday I just get more confused with what direction we are going to go in the draft whether it be a defensive LB, rusher or otherwise, or a offensive lineman, or offensive playmaker... maybe I should give ireland kudos for that... or i just overanalyze perhaps.
    I agree about Kuechly, If you don't draft him @ 8 there better be a better reason than Koa Misi.
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    umm i would much rather see a de than a ol
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    I see us drafting two DE types where one becomes OLB. Two by two method again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mfish41 View Post
    I agree about Kuechly, If you don't draft him @ 8 there better be a better reason than Koa Misi.
    I think its comical that people so readily dismiss Misi because he's not an edge rusher. Guess what?, neither is Kuechly or Ray Lewis.
    Fact is, none of use know if Misi can be effective as a MLB. Only the coaches who breakdown his film, pick his brain and watch him in practice can truly make that projection.
    What we do know is that he was a versatile player in college who played DE and OLB. For the Phins he was effective in setting the edge, playing the run, dropping into coverage and playing with a high motor. So, in that respect he's a good NFL player. Its ridiculous for anyone to call him a bust.
    The Steelers had success converting Timmons to an ILB, so why can't Misi play the position? From everything I've read about him, he's a hard worker, plays physically and smart.
    Reading some of the posts regarding Misi (on several threads), if the guy can't be a dominant outside pass rusher, he's automatically a failure. There is much more to playing defense than just collecting sacks.
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    I'm not a huge booster of Manning coming here (due to concerns about his health), but if you bring in Peyton Manning, you bring in Peyton Manning. You implement a system he's comfortable with from day one. I think that's a no-brainer.
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    If we are set at Qb before the draft, it will be OL LB/DE and FS all along. Philbin likes Clay a whole lot, Fasano is still here, I see us getting a speedster who can actually get separation.

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