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    Oh, stop whining

    Why the hell is everyone already pissy and whining about what's going on down in Miami? Quarterbacks don't grow on tree, and this isn't Madden the video game - you don't just grab a quarterback because you just need one. Let's examine the situations:

    1) Manning: 36-year-old quarterback by the time the season starts. His arm and health aren't even guaranteed. Got paid $96 million for five years; and we want him why? If we're going to do this for the long-term, why even focus on on this? Had he succeeded, Manning would have been expensive and a stop gap quarterback. Why even cry over spilled milk?

    2) Matt Flynn: two games under his belt against two teams with horrible defense; passed for six touchdowns in one of those games. No one else in the league wanted him, not even quarterback-needy Cleveland, and we cry that he signed with Seattle? It's more like the organization's front office didn't sign him.

    3) Alex Smith: if you think paying $8 million a year for a marginal quarterback is making a splash, you're dead wrong. Smith neither deserved nor will he perform well enough to earn the $8 million he wants.

    4) David Garrard - The team needed a quarterback to push Moore - he was the best option, cheap and has experiences in winning. Not a sexy move, but one that makes sense. Why cry?

    The only head-scratcher I've seen is the Marshall trade, but even at that, they were justified. Fact is this guy never performed with what he was being paid and had a lot of baggage, so they cut their losses, traded him and got two thirds for him. Again, what's wrong with this?

    Who would have made you happy in this year's free agency? Let's face it, there weren't a lot of big, sexy names out there. Had they signed Williams, you'd whined about them signing defense rather than offensive players; had they signed Manning, you would have whined that they wasted too much money.

    The point is you guys are never happy with anything that goes on with this team. Is this team better than it was during the beginning of the off season? No. But you can't expect change in two or three weeks. It seems that at times you just want the excitement of signing big name players or the satisfaction of laying the smack down on Jeff Ireland that your thinking becomes myopic. Grow up.
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    I agree, i say once alex smith goes back to being the real alex smith we all know from 06-10, matt flynn have a kevin kolb in arizona season and manning gets hit by a guy name rey lewis and have to retire beacuse of neck issues then ireland will look like a genius ..........but for now you cant really blame fans for whining its only natural. The miami dolphins have been terrible for a long time and fans have had enough. Something has to give for this team and maybe whinning and protesting while push to front office to start making some big moves....look what it did for the lions
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    Yea, I agree. Things have been going swimmingly the last 4 years. I cant figure out the source of people's anger.




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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerdolphin View Post
    Yea, I agree. Things have been going swimmingly the last 4 years. I cant figure out the source of people's anger.
    That's the biggest problem, everyone is trying to saddle Ireland with every problem we've had for 10 years. Last year, and this year, since Ireland has had full control we've made nothing but smart moves, and last year's draft was our best yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WesternNYDolfan View Post
    That's the biggest problem, everyone is trying to saddle Ireland with every problem we've had for 10 years. Last year, and this year, since Ireland has had full control we've made nothing but smart moves, and last year's draft was our best yet.
    Well whos fault is it? You were a relentless Sparano defender. Now youre defending Ireland. 6-10 is one of their faults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerdolphin View Post
    Well whos fault is it? You were a relentless Sparano defender. Now youre defending Ireland. 6-10 is one of their faults.
    listen it has been consistent mediocrity, i get that, but the team is much better than it was before they got here. Honestly, I wouldn'tve dumped Sparano, I know I'll take heat for that but I don't think they're the problem. I believe this team with all of its young talent is getting ready to breakout, Ireland has and will continue to draft well, which matters.

    The fault is they came into a completely dysfunctional organization, Huizenga made countless terrible moves which continually set the team back cap and talent wise. The 11-5 season on their first year was a blessing for us as fans, but a curse for them because it was an unsustainable abberation. But because of that it fooled everyone into win now mode, alot more FA signings than we should've done, and slowed the rebuilding process. Now we are actually going about it the right way and I think the fans should see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WesternNYDolfan View Post
    and last year's draft was our best yet.
    To soon to tell but based on one season this was not a spectacular draft class. Pouncey was a nice choice but beyond that it's a stretch to say the rest had productive seasons. Don't give me that **** about potential, that's not how classes are evaluated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDog 88 View Post
    To soon to tell but based on one season this was not a spectacular draft class. Pouncey was a nice choice but beyond that it's a stretch to say the rest had productive seasons. Don't give me that **** about potential, that's not how classes are evaluated.
    Yea Im not really seeing this great class I keep hearing about. Pouncey was a safe pick and has been good. Daniel Thomas was not very good last year, Clay had a few flashes as did Wilson. The rest were non-factors.
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    I agreee with this post. Just remember what happened with Orton, just 14 months ago. people in the stands wanted the FO to overpay for a QB that led his team to a 1-4 record, was benched and will be a backup this year. Honestly I do not have a lot to say about the football decisions the FO made, those who whine about the lack of a franchise QB ought to remember that there's some luck in it too.
    To wit: how many QBs were taken before Dan Marino in the 1983 draft? Do we forget that Tom Brady was passed over 198 times? Besides, will you call the pople in Indy geniuses just because their franchise QB went down just when the best QB prospect of the decade declared for the draft? It just fell in their laps, for heaven's sake!
    What I see in our FO is some good football sense to go with the lack of opportunities. I would like a bit more creativity, true, but hey everything is debatable.
    What I think there is here, is the perception of creating a player-unfriendly environment. it began back in 2008 when still productive veterans and good soldiers, like vonnie Holliday, where unceremoniously shipped out of town. It continued with the Matt Roth fiasco, and the handling of the IR placement of others (David Martin, Will Allen) and it was brought to the extremes with scapegoating a couple of players for special teams failures (Erik Walden, Benny Sapp). couple of this with the horrible by any means mistake of asking 'Is you mother a whore?' and there you have it: even the most savvy and effective management will be erased by these blunders.
    This is a domain, anyway, where only ownership can do something about but the early reviews are not encouraging, see the (un)loyalty display used to tony sparano in 2011 ...
    Let's just hope that they realise it and do something to change perception because now, they are standing pretty low ...
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