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Thread: Ryan Tannehill: poop poop poop

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    Quote Originally Posted by TedSlimmJr View Post
    Tylerdolphin needs to win something. He gets hosed out of that Most Comedic award every year. If the voting was close I was giving him my vote to put him ahead... don't look like he'll need it.
    To the contrary.. it's less about the 3rd world terrorist getting "hosed" and more about him being the equivalent to Kansas last night






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    If I am making the pick at 8 I am taking Kuechly then following up with Weeden who is ready to face NFL competition. Tannehill is benefiting from the lack of QB talent in the draft and moving up only because of the amount of teams looking for that franchise guy. I am not sold on him and would actually rather wait a year if they don't want/can't get Weeden. There is a much better class next year giving the Dolphins the possibility of having options with their first pick, or put themselves into position to move up.
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    I'm really back and forth on this one. If we had the old coaching staff, and we were looking at drafting Tannehill, I'd be pretty set against it. I don't see him as a player who will succeed regardless of destination. Of QB's in recent years, Newton and Luck are the only two who make me say: 'This guy will find a way to get it done - wherever.' I know you still have reservations about Newton, but that's another discussion. But when I factor in his intelligence, his skill set, and our coaching staff, I see a guy who could definitely be a bigger, faster A. Rodgers (speaking only of his ceiling). He definitely needs development, but if our staff decides that he's the best guy to develop, I can really get behind that.

    On the other side of that coin:

    He does need to be developed. If the staff thinks they can just as well develop R. Lindley (for example) and get him in the 3rd, then, yeah, by all means, draft Kuechly, Floyd, or someone else. Looking back, could J. Campbell have turned out like A. Rodgers if the situations were reversed? Decent chance. But I think the staff has to be comfortable with who they're developing. If they believe in him, and he has the tools, I think they'll get it done.
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    I've been saying this for the last 2 years and I will continue to say this; if the head coach and GM of the Miami Dolphins see a QB and they feel they can build an offense around him and win games with him, you take him no matter what. You don't take a QB just to take a QB, and honestly with how the offseason has gone I think we are preparing to either A)Draft Tannehill or B)Draft a guy in round 3 to develop like Ryan Lindley (who has 3 years of WCO experience) or Brock Osweiler. IMO I think Weeden is more of an option for Cleveland than us.

    As of right now, it's Tannehill as choice one, Kuechley as choice 2, and Melvin Ingram as choice 3. If Blackmon falls, I think you take him no question, if Richardson somehow falls to us, I'm trying to coax the Bengals to giving up their 2 first rounders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChambersWI View Post
    I've been saying this for the last 2 years and I will continue to say this; if the head coach and GM of the Miami Dolphins see a QB and they feel they can build an offense around him and win games with him, you take him no matter what. You don't take a QB just to take a QB, and honestly with how the offseason has gone I think we are preparing to either A)Draft Tannehill or B)Draft a guy in round 3 to develop like Ryan Lindley (who has 3 years of WCO experience) or Brock Osweiler. IMO I think Weeden is more of an option for Cleveland than us.

    As of right now, it's Tannehill as choice one, Kuechley as choice 2, and Melvin Ingram as choice 3. If Blackmon falls, I think you take him no question, if Richardson somehow falls to us, I'm trying to coax the Bengals to giving up their 2 first rounders.
    Unless you're really turned off by Floyd as a person, I don't think there's much of a gap at all between he and Blackmon. If anything, I like Floyd a little better as a player. For what we're going to be doing, though, I think Kueckley will be more valuable than Blackmon or Floyd.
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    I think Blackmon fits the offense a bit better, and while I'm not totally against Floyd he's just not choice numero uno
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthos View Post
    "I seen him meltdown in certain games, just throwing **** up in the 2nd half causing his team problems.". I understand what you are saying, but let's remember, he only started 19 games. Experience and coaching MIGHT fix those kinds of issues.

    But to me it doesn't matter, Miami needs a franchise QB. It's abundantly clear we aren't going to get one through free agency, ever. Therefore, our only alternative is to draft the best available QB, EVERY YEAR, until we find our franchise QB. It's really that simple to me.
    So you would draft the Brady Quinn's until you hit a john beck? All the while not taking a P. Willis? Makes NO ****ING SENSE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedSlimmJr View Post
    The major cause of the failure isn't passing up on quarterbacks... it's passing up on franchise caliber quarterbacks. There's a difference.

    For example, when they passed on john beck, they took Jake Long and ended up with a helluva player (when healthy). They made a safe decision, but not the best one to make Miami a competitive team year in and year out.

    When they passed on Brady Quinn, they made a wise decision. But they un-did that wise decision with a completely incompetent pick, when the best defensive player in the draft was sitting right there.

    They made a bad decision passing on Drew Brees, but compounded that by trading a draft pick for a quarterback who was already washed up even before he was injured. The injury just exacerbated his demise. They should've traded up for Jay Cutler instead when they knew they couldn't land Brees. It could've been done because that's exactly what Denver did....traded up to #11 to take him.

    Wannstedt didn't try hard enough to get Matt Hasselbeck in free agency. He went to Seattle and led them to the superbowl instead.


    Here's my point, nobody is a stronger proponent of building around the quarterback position than I have been for a long time. But quarterbacks often boil down to gut feeling. It's what's in your gut that you're eventually going to go with. Taking blind stabs just to take them in an attempt to make up for all your past mistakes will get you nowhere just as fast.

    Tannehill just isn't the quarterback that you want to pass up elite talent for in the top 10 of the draft. You're reaching for something that isn't there right now. Which is always acceptable as long as you're not passing up a truly elite player at another position.

    There's a quarterback who's better than Tannehill right now who Miami might be able to get at the top of the 2nd round. There's 3 or 4 other quarterbacks in this draft that Miami could get even later than that who are no more developmental than Tannehill is, and have just as much upside.

    It makes no sense to take the same caliber of player with the 8th overall pick that you can get with the 73rd overall pick.
    Your post makes the assumption that ..............No.1) Your perception is reality and perfect!

    I remember being angry when this franchise passed on Drew Brees for Jamar Fletcher....at the time many "draft experts" weren't so sure.

    I remember wanting Aaron Rogers with the No. 2 overall in 2006....the draft experts on THIS board didn't think much of Rogers....I did. Boy wasn't Ronnie Brown great?

    To paraphrase George Young...Former Dolphins and Giants executive..."If you don't have a franchise QB, you keep drafting until you get one"

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    Glad somebody agrees with me on this one.

    I watched MOST of his games this year, and have watched another 3 of them over and over.

    This kid has forever to go before he is a good QB, and I honestly saw way way too many mistakes for me to think he ever will be.

    He has a really really bad habit of predetermining his target before he even receives the ball from the center...and he doesn't look off of that very often.

    The kid can indeed run, but that alone won't do it at the next level.

    I saw him make LOTS of really bad throws against very mediocre defenses all season long. I kept wondering "Where the heck was he throwing that", and the cameras repeatedly showed that he indeed was not throwing it near anybody.

    Even at an elite position, that we might or might not be needing, this kid is NOT worthy of a top 10 pick. Not even close!
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    My poop poop poop will be this....if Mike Sherman ( who knows this kid better than any fan or amatuer)...believes in this kid as having it...its good enough for me.

    We'll see what happens, obviously philbin did not believe in Flynn...Sherman's opinion of Tannehill will weigh heavily.

    I watched the kid and liked what I saw.
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