How many division titles did the Jests win under Jabba the Jest? How many Super Bowls have they played in?
9-7, 11-5, and 8-8 is NOT elite when a team fails to do either. When you constantly brag that your team lost the conference championship two years in a row, that simply indicates how low your standards are. What's got you all hot and bothered about Jabba is that the Jests made the playoffs two years in a row, something they hadn't done in a dozen or more years, so you strut around thinking your team is somethig special.
Nobody except Jests fans and some of the NYC media think the Jests are "elite". The only "elite" team in the AFCE is NE:
- 9 times in the playoffs in the last 11 years
- 8 times AFCE division champions
- 5 Super Bowl appearances
- 3 Super Bowl wins
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If part of being "elite" includes being a 7-7 team, beating teams with just barely over a .300 cumulative winning percent, recently dropping 6 of 7, losing to a dead out of the playoffs team at home in the one game you needed to win and then stepping in sh1t having 2 teams take knees, then facing the worst playoff team in 10 years (by the time they made it there being 3-4 out of their last 7) and subsequently having a normally clutch kicker help his team beat themselves while your own QB has a 60QBR, 100yds and went 12-23, and then finally being jarred back to reality by starters who actually are trying to win...then I guess that would qualify. However, like the saying more or less goes: sometimes it's better to be lucky than good"
Maybe in some forums acceptable semantics equate "lucky" with "elite' but I'd speculate, those non-objective forums are few and far between.
Wisdom from a "QB Whisperer::
"No we have our FRANCHISE QB and I want to keep him rather than get 2 guys who may or may not be productive NFL players.
Palmer's situation is different and if I had my choice between Palmer and buttfumble, I'd take buttfumble"