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    Quote Originally Posted by DisturbedShifty View Post
    I'll admit I am jealous of the Jets success the past few years. But elite does mean you don't need help getting into the playoffs. Elite means to demolish everyone in your path and place in one of the top two seeds. The Jets were better than most teams at the right time. And that is great. But to crown them "elite" is stretching the truth.

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    agreed. last year the jets were mediocre at best. the 2 years before the jets were a good team, but definitely not elite. they mad eit to the play-offs and played well besides the championship games. elite teams win their divisions and win at least one of those championship games to make it to the superbowl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinzua View Post


    How many division titles did the Jests win under Jabba the Jest? How many Super Bowls have they played in?

    9-7, 11-5, and 8-8 is NOT elite when a team fails to do either. When you constantly brag that your team lost the conference championship two years in a row, that simply indicates how low your standards are. What's got you all hot and bothered about Jabba is that the Jests made the playoffs two years in a row, something they hadn't done in a dozen or more years, so you strut around thinking your team is somethig special.

    Nobody except Jests fans and some of the NYC media think the Jests are "elite". The only "elite" team in the AFCE is NE:
    • 9 times in the playoffs in the last 11 years
    • 8 times AFCE division champions
    • 5 Super Bowl appearances
    • 3 Super Bowl wins
    The ONLY team in the NFL to reach conf title games 2 opf the last 3 years
    NO team has more playoff wins in the last 3 years

    That is ELITE

    Quote Originally Posted by AquaInferno View Post
    Elite teams don't need help to get into the playoffs and lose their last game to a team out of playoffs since October (referring to 2011 not the Colts BS that's old now) You didnt see NE in that situation, why? Because they have stability something elite teams have. Not locker room melt downs and guys sitting out pouting because his QB sucks.
    The Jets had a rookie HC and rookie QB, they scratched their way in and once in made the NFL's Final Four then did so again a year later.

    Quote Originally Posted by DisturbedShifty View Post
    I'll admit I am jealous of the Jets success the past few years. But elite does mean you don't need help getting into the playoffs. Elite means to demolish everyone in your path and place in one of the top two seeds. The Jets were better than most teams at the right time. And that is great. But to crown them "elite" is stretching the truth.

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    so I guess the Giants weren't elite winning a SB? they were 9-7 and made it b/c they played in a weak division then won close games in the title agme and SB.

    Quote Originally Posted by PhinzN703 View Post
    So Eli Manning isn't an elite QB b/c he's only won the Super Bowl twice in four years yet the Jets are elite they've gotten to the AFC Title Game twice in three years?

    I know in your world that makes sense but...
    elite QBs don't have playoff wins in only 2 of 8 seasons int he league, they don't miss 2 of the last 3 postseasons and lead their team to a 9-7 record in a weak division. He played like an elite QB in postseason which is when it matters most so I tip my cap but he's not an elite QB.



    elite teams are the top teams in the league, if the Jets have the most playoff wins in the last 3 years under rex(share w/ GB, NYG, NO), the most title game apps(by themselves), the most playoff wins in the AFC in the last 3 years- how are they not elite? They weren't elite last year obviously but over the 3 years of rex they have been elite.

    You'll tell me NE is elite w/ 2 playoff wins in 3 seasons but the Jets w/ 4(including beating up NE on the road in the '10 div rd) are not? Interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post

    so I guess the Giants weren't elite winning a SB? they were 9-7 and made it b/c they played in a weak division then won close games in the title agme and SB.
    No. The Giants are not elite. Their quarterback is elite. And they to got hot at the right time, just like the Jets did. Except they didn't sputter out in the conference championship game like the Jets did.

    And you can flaunt your "two years in a row" stat all you want. But which is more impressive? A Vince Lombardi trophy or a piece of paper that says "two consecutive AFC championship appearance"? I would want the trophy if it were me. But then again, if I was having a pissing contest with a division rival I guess a piece of paper isn't too bad either. But you wouldn't hear me bragging about it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DisturbedShifty View Post
    No. The Giants are not elite. Their quarterback is elite. And they to got hot at the right time, just like the Jets did. Except they didn't sputter out in the conference championship game like the Jets did.

    And you can flaunt your "two years in a row" stat all you want. But which is more impressive? A Vince Lombardi trophy or a piece of paper that says "two consecutive AFC championship appearance"? I would want the trophy if it were me. But then again, if I was having a pissing contest with a division rival I guess a piece of paper isn't too bad either. But you wouldn't hear me bragging about it.


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    a SB champ isn't elite but a guy who had average #s and led his team to 9-7 in a weak division is elite?

    The Jets played tougher teams in the title game and didn't get the huge breaks the giants got.

    ONLY team to win reach 2 conf title games, no team has more playoff wins in last 3 years. That is elite.

    Who do you consider the elite teams?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post



    The Jets had a rookie HC and rookie QB, they scratched their way in and once in made the NFL's Final Four then did so again a year later.


    I was referring to last year. You bring up 3 years ago, I'm just gonna leave it at that. Have fun in la la land!
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    i dont care whose elite and whose not. all i can tell you is if i have a choice of which team to play in one game, new england or the jest, i would take playing against jest 10 out of 10 times. i always look forward to our annual win against the jest. after all, they are the worst team in the afc east long history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    a SB champ isn't elite but a guy who had average #s and led his team to 9-7 in a weak division is elite?

    The Jets played tougher teams in the title game and didn't get the huge breaks the giants got.

    ONLY team to win reach 2 conf title games, no team has more playoff wins in last 3 years. That is elite.

    Who do you consider the elite teams?
    I honestly made the Eli comment just to irritate you. >:-}

    It doesn't matter how tough your opponent. A win is a win, whether its by three point ls or twenty.

    And again, those two title game appearances are only impressive in a divisional pissing contest. And in a division that has the Patriots in it, it is even less impressive. But you'll just throw the narrowed timeline at me again so whatever.

    As for teams I consider elite, The Patriots and the Steelers are the only two that I think of when you say elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaInferno View Post
    I was referring to last year. You bring up 3 years ago, I'm just gonna leave it at that. Have fun in la la land!
    my mistake but I said we weren't elite in 2011 but taking the last 3 years into account we have been an elite team in those 3 years overall.

    Quote Originally Posted by jared81 View Post
    i dont care whose elite and whose not. all i can tell you is if i have a choice of which team to play in one game, new england or the jest, i would take playing against jest 10 out of 10 times. i always look forward to our annual win against the jest. after all, they are the worst team in the afc east long history.
    Since 2009:
    Jets 4-2 in postseason including whipping of Pats
    NE 2-3 including being whipped by the Jets at home

    It's nice that you have such high standards for your team where you are out of the race by October but are happy to win a meaningles game against us. When we dominated Miami in the late 90s-early 00s(won 8 straight) and Miami was making the playoffs while we were missing most years I wasn't happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisturbedShifty View Post
    I honestly made the Eli comment just to irritate you. >:-}

    It doesn't matter how tough your opponent. A win is a win, whether its by three point ls or twenty.

    And again, those two title game appearances are only impressive in a divisional pissing contest. And in a division that has the Patriots in it, it is even less impressive. But you'll just throw the narrowed timeline at me again so whatever.

    As for teams I consider elite, The Patriots and the Steelers are the only two that I think of when you say elite.

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    I use the narrow timeline b/c that is when rex took over and it is recent, relevant history.

    In that span the Jets have advanced further than NE 2 of 3 times, have twice as many playoff wins and beat up NE on the road in the '10 div rd. How are the Pats elite and the Jets not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    The ONLY team in the NFL to reach conf title games 2 opf the last 3 years
    NO team has more playoff wins in the last 3 years

    That is ELITE



    The Jets had a rookie HC and rookie QB, they scratched their way in and once in made the NFL's Final Four then did so again a year later.



    so I guess the Giants weren't elite winning a SB? they were 9-7 and made it b/c they played in a weak division then won close games in the title agme and SB.



    elite QBs don't have playoff wins in only 2 of 8 seasons int he league, they don't miss 2 of the last 3 postseasons and lead their team to a 9-7 record in a weak division. He played like an elite QB in postseason which is when it matters most so I tip my cap but he's not an elite QB.



    elite teams are the top teams in the league, if the Jets have the most playoff wins in the last 3 years under rex(share w/ GB, NYG, NO), the most title game apps(by themselves), the most playoff wins in the AFC in the last 3 years- how are they not elite? They weren't elite last year obviously but over the 3 years of rex they have been elite.

    You'll tell me NE is elite w/ 2 playoff wins in 3 seasons but the Jets w/ 4(including beating up NE on the road in the '10 div rd) are not? Interesting.
    An elite team wins championships. Pittsburgh, New England, New Orelans, Green Bay, N.Y. Giants. These are elite teams. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisturbedShifty View Post
    No. The Giants are not elite. Their quarterback is elite. And they to got hot at the right time, just like the Jets did. Except they didn't sputter out in the conference championship game like the Jets did.

    And you can flaunt your "two years in a row" stat all you want. But which is more impressive? A Vince Lombardi trophy or a piece of paper that says "two consecutive AFC championship appearance"? I would want the trophy if it were me. But then again, if I was having a pissing contest with a division rival I guess a piece of paper isn't too bad either. But you wouldn't hear me bragging about it.


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    Winning two SBs in four years isn't elite? How do you figure?



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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    a SB champ isn't elite but a guy who had average #s and led his team to 9-7 in a weak division is elite?

    The Jets played tougher teams in the title game and didn't get the huge breaks the giants got.

    ONLY team to win reach 2 conf title games, no team has more playoff wins in last 3 years. That is elite.

    Who do you consider the elite teams?
    Who do YOU consider the elite teams?
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