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    2008-2011 Dolphins drafts...

    Ok I got to thinking about Sean Smith's lack of interceptions and decided for ****s and giggles to review the parcels then ireland draft era. I remember briefly someone saying Jake was the lone survivor of the 2008 draft, a draft that by all rights was completely a parcels' draft. Then 2009 etc, and i'm wondering if 2009 is going to look like the 2008 next year. Is is possible that vonte is the lone survivor of the 2009 draft? How horrendous has our drafting been just in the last 4 years? Has it gotten better?
    2008 draft. (9 picks)

    Jake Long


    2009 draft (9 picks)

    Vontae Davis

    Sean Smith

    Brian Hartline

    Chris Clemons

    Andrew Gardner


    2010 draft (8 picks)


    Jared Odrick

    Koa Misi

    John Jerry

    Nolan Carroll

    Reshad Jones

    Austin Spitler


    2011 draft (6 picks)


    Mike Pouncey

    Daniel Thomas

    Edmond Gates

    Charles Clay

    Jimmy Wilson


     

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    I've said all along that it's very difficult to judge Jeff Ireland because of Bill Parcells.

    Bill Parcells always has and always will do it his way. it doesn't matter what expert input Ireland may have had, Parcells ultimately did what he wanted to do in the draft.

    Ireland may not have liked Koa Misi or Austin Spitler and had possibly pinned better targets than those two...but Parcells wouldn't hear it. Didn't matter at all.

    I was very reserved in criticisms of Ireland because of this. Now, under Ireland, the draft classes seem to be far better than they were with the combo of Parcells and Ireland.

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    I like Ireland, everyone wanted to pin everything on Jeff instead of looking at the facts. I mean Jeff had to beg Tuna to draft Ware in Dallas.
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    I dont think it all that bad. And i think things are getting better!
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    Well, it's definitely hard to judge at this point. I'd say the've hit on all first rounders to varying degrees. Jake Long, if he stays healthy, could be a Hall of Famer. No argument there. Michael Pouncey looks like he could be a perennial pro bowler. Vontae Davis has been a bit disappointing, but still is an above average corner who should get better. Jared Odrick is emerging and shows some pass rush. I think the trade down that year hurt the draft, though, as Koa Misi is average at best. A lot of other players need to step up. Brian Hartline is an average starter who could be a better fit in Joe Philibin's offense. Both the safeties Chris Clemens and Reshad Jones are in make or break years IMO. Sean Smith is also in a make or break year and has been somewhat of a disappointment. The Dolphins have hit big on several undrafted free agents and that needs to be factored in. Guys like Bess and Carpenter have been very good for the Dolphins.
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    I don't buy the clean separation of Parcells' picks and Ireland's picks. Too cute. Too convenient. It's like something we'd mock from an opposing team, particularly a rival, but since it's ours it's gospel.

    For one thing, Parcells understandably claimed the flops as his. The guy was all but out the door. His reputation was hardly in the balance, at 70. He knew Sparano was doomed. To avoid a complete wipeout of his final NFL venture, no kidding he'll support his hand carried buddy Jeff Ireland and accept the punches.

    In particular, I get a kick out of assertions that Parcells admitted he blew the choices. Or that Ireland admitted that Parcells took names off his board. I've seen it phrased that way here, and on other Dolphin sites. I admit that I had sex with 25 cheerleaders yesterday. It's a claim, nothing more. The word admit is laughably abused and misused on message boards.

    One of the reasons I'm skeptical is the 2011 draft wasn't noticeably different, if at all. Lots of strange and seemingly scattergun picks. Then the apparent lurch toward Kyle Orton at obscene rate.

    Now, the 2012 draft stands apart. Evidence of a helping hand, a wise suggestive guide broken away from a smart and recently successful franchise.

    As Parcells has famously pointed out, you are what you are. IMO, Jeff Ireland is what he's always been...nothing remarkable. Joe Philbin helps considerably with the averaging.
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    for a team that has consistently missed the playoffs and thereby earned high draft picks you have to say our selections are very very underwhelming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr.jake View Post
    for a team that has consistently missed the playoffs and thereby earned high draft picks you have to say our selections are very very underwhelming.
    If you thnik they are underwelming then the past 20 years before Ireland just were downight bad. Richmond Webb top 10 pick, Jason Taylor 3rd round and really did not show up until end of his second to third year, Zach Thomas 5th round instant starter, Kieth Simm 2nd round took about 2 years to show up, OJ McDuffie 1st round punt returner 1st year did not catch a pass. Thats about it going back a long way
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