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Thread: Affordable Care Act upheld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jared81 View Post
    Agreed. Good news for Obama's legacy. Bad news for his re-election. I can just see the attack ads now, they have obama on camera many times saying it wasn't a tax.
    If more than one justice, Ginsburg, backed the commerce clause as the WH pretended could see this as being a non-viable. "Read my lips, no new tax's" was used very effectively against Bush, expect the see a lot of this again too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerdolphin View Post
    I dont have a dog in this fight and cant say I know much about Obamacare. Just stopped by to say I am really enjoying the level of mad a lot of my American friends are at right now judging by facebook.
    most people dont know alot about it. the people that are against it are mainly made because it isnt really about bringing cost down. its about bigger government. if you want to save money on health care the first thing they can do is pass TORT reform. TORT reform is basiclly a way to stop ridiculous lawsuits that people in europe make fun of the american judicial system. the other thing you could do would to be allow insurance companies to sell over state lines. the reason why obama doesnt want TORT refrom is because he gets a ton of money from trial attoronys. one of the big trail attorneys in orlando just held a big fundraiser for obama last month, which obama was actually at.

    this is about politics and not about care.
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    To say that the problem is only a TORT reform issue is a huge oversimplification designed straight republican talking points.

    The affordable healthcare act is an imperfect solution at best but...

    -The massive cost of healthcare is result of...
    -Our aging population
    -Defensive medicine
    -Enormous admin costs driven by insurance company profit moives
    -Frivolous Lawsuits
    -Waste and Fraud by healthcare providers
    -A la carte medical care driven patients

    A real solution would involve everyone giving something up.
    Some Doctors giving up some pay or at least changing their fee structure to some sort of pay for performance.
    TORT Reform.
    Some sort of curtailing of insurance costs either through competition or regulation or both
    A general shift in allocation of resources from expensive after the fact procedures to cost cutting preventive measures.
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    All this is really moot. The fatter this country gets the more expensive healthcare is going to get, regardless of who is paying for it.
    Insert pithy saying here.

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    what an unaffordable mess the left has dumped on america
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    Guess What Healthcare was an unsustainable ballooning cost long before the ACA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbone34 View Post
    what an unaffordable mess the left has dumped on america
    Yes, yes, an unaffordable mess that will reduce the defict by $200 Billion. Crazy left.


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    Where is my free Obama care? I want my free cell phone. I want free food stamps. Give me, give me, give me...what a country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trojanma View Post
    Guess What Healthcare was an unsustainable ballooning cost long before the ACA.
    and still is, you seem to be pretty good with the democratic talking points as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LANGER72 View Post
    Where is my free Obama care? I want my free cell phone. I want free food stamps. Give me, give me, give me...what a country.
    What a joke. Why don't you call it Romney care.

    Giving basic preventative healthcare to this country's populous is ultimately a cost SAVER.
    An overweight, sickly, diseased populace is inherently unproductive.

    Once the Republicans had turned this into a political issue and completely distorted the facts people are posting nonsense like this.

    If you are going to criticize the ACA at least do it where it deserves criticism.
    It makes completely unrealistic calculations and ask physicians to take cuts to service that will result in docs leaving the profession. The AMA signed off on the law because they were promised fixes down the road.
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