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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPhinFan View Post
    I think the likelihood of nuclear annihlation has steeply decreased since the 80s. I don't think its a realistic outcome any longer, at least among the superpowers. Now a terrorist group could most certainly get their hands on a bomb and smuggle it into a harbor and set if off but I don't see an actual nuclear strike carried out by a country on another as something that will happen unless it's 2 small countries like an Iran launching on Saudia Arabia or something like that. Consider it a good by product of our new globally interconnected economies. The super powers depend on each other's economies too much to launch strikes.
    I dont think its limited to a nuclear thing. Could be any number of things that we dont even know exist yet. I dunno...seems like theres a decent chance some asshat with issues wipes us out.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPhinFan View Post
    I think the likelihood of nuclear annihlation has steeply decreased since the 80s. I don't think its a realistic outcome any longer, at least among the superpowers. Now a terrorist group could most certainly get their hands on a bomb and smuggle it into a harbor and set if off but I don't see an actual nuclear strike carried out by a country on another as something that will happen unless it's 2 small countries like an Iran launching on Saudia Arabia or something like that. Consider it a good by product of our new globally interconnected economies. The super powers depend on each other's economies too much to launch strikes.
    I think that's right, but the main threat that's replaced the US versus Russia isn't Iran or Saudi Arabia, it's Pakistan and India. Between them they have more than 200 nuclear weapons and their absolutely virulent hatred for each other is not very well understood by the West, imo. It's not as long lasting as Middle East tensions (it dates back to the Persian conquest of India in the Middle Ages, the so-called Mughal period), but it is probably more intense. Not only that, but the US has limited political influence on either side, thanks to the billions we've been giving to the Pakistanis for years to help track down terrorists. They've basically turned around and spent all of it on armaments facing India, who mistrusts us because they are completely aware that we're arming their rival. And anyway, whatever influence we had over Pakistan (which was a mirage, anyway, tbh) totally disappeared after we killed Bin Laden.

    I read a very alarming story about a year or two ago that said that in their paranoia after the Bin Laden killing the Pakistani military had taken many of their warheads and loaded them into unmarked trucks and were just driving them around randomly in case we decided to invade and capture their nuclear capacity. And I'm not talking about armed convoys here. These are solitary trucks, a few guys and a nuke, just driving around. I mean, what could go wrong?

    As Pakistan becomes more and more of a rogue state this situation is probably only going to get worse rather than better. And the fear we had about Russian military stockpiles falling into the wrong hands -- I read another totally alarming anecdote about that a few years back; many, many Russian nukes went missing -- is probably even more justified in Pakistan given it's already the worst government in the world (I don't consider North Korea a government).



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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerdolphin View Post
    Ive told people my age before, and it comes off as a joke but I believe it to be true, that theres a 15-25% that **** hits the fan and we annihilate ourselves before I turn 70. I truly believe that and Im probably being conservative with the odds.
    Not going to happen, in order for the 1% to make their money they need workers. Worker Bees make the world go round. If anything what Walrus and Lou say are more likely to happen. Odds of Pakistan and India going at it increase day to day and the odds of a rogue faction nabbing a dirty bomb and setting it off is also increasing but is still a much lower percentage.

    If I had to wager, I'd say Pakistan and India set the next war off and the chance of that being nuclear is pretty high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry_Bagpipe View Post
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    Pretty much. I think he argues just to argue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry_Bagpipe View Post
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    Man that was a fun read............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry_Bagpipe View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valandui View Post
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    Probably true. One thing I really, really hope is included, probably in the season finale is
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    It was one of the best parts of that book and I hope they can at least put most of it in but I have a bad feeling that they'll butcher it somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COphinphan89 View Post
    Probably true. One thing I really, really hope is included, probably in the season finale is
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    It was one of the best parts of that book and I hope they can at least put most of it in but I have a bad feeling that they'll butcher it somehow.
    Although I don't want them to speed it up that much, this season I really hope we see
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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPhinFan View Post
    I think the likelihood of nuclear annihlation has steeply decreased since the 80s. I don't think its a realistic outcome any longer, at least among the superpowers. Now a terrorist group could most certainly get their hands on a bomb and smuggle it into a harbor and set if off but I don't see an actual nuclear strike carried out by a country on another as something that will happen unless it's 2 small countries like an Iran launching on Saudia Arabia or something like that. Consider it a good by product of our new globally interconnected economies. The super powers depend on each other's economies too much to launch strikes.
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