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    Quote Originally Posted by Valandui View Post
    I'm not saying it doesn't exist or condoning it. I just mean that racism is racism.
    I think that's an oversimplification, as the video points out. The historical effect of one kind of racism is part of the equation.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalrus View Post
    Not as much as we in the majority like to think. The inability to see institutional racism -- which I think we'd both agree is the default mode -- is itself a kind of racism.



    I'm not following you 100%.
    Just that racism as a general concept doesn't have a definite degree to it. A white person could dislike all black people, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they would agree to ethnic cleansing.

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    Fascinating video. Makes me wonder about who in this thread might be related to ol' King John. Locke is Persian, so I assume he's out. Harry is Croatian, as well as either Scandanavian or Russian, I think. Can't remember exactly. Rob is half Cuban like me. I don't know what the other half is but because of his avatar I've always assumed it was African American (is that wrong? ). I don't know about the rest of you. GoonBoss is Russian but he's not exactly a regular. Spesh strikes me as being Irish. What with the drunkenness... though the Irish are posers at drinking compared to the Scots. What about the rest of you pieces of genetic garbage?

    I've traced my own male line back to a German professor who emigrated in 1752, and other direct descendants back to Scotland, Wales and Spain (including some Basque!). Apparently I'm also partly Jewish (through my Spanish side) and -- like anyone whose family has been in America for a long time -- part African American, making me a friend and enemy to all. The odd part was, England never came up, except as an assumption through my Scottish and Welsh ancestors. So who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalrus View Post
    I think that's an oversimplification, as the video points out. The historical effect of one kind of racism is part of the equation.
    Maybe, but I still feel like saying that one type of racism is worse than another (in concept, not practice) is kind of reinforcing it.
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    So I started playing Ass Creed III. I can understand why it got such mixed reviews. I personally love wandering around 1700's New England (I am/was a history major specializing in the colonial/post-revolution and pre-Civil War eras), I can see where some might find it kind of boring. So far, I've come to two conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalrus View Post
    Not really. There's a difference between hating someone and hating someone you have power over. White majorities turned racism into discrimination... into inequity under the law and in social practice. If you're a minority and you hate the race in the majority, that hatred doesn't really do anything.

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    It's society that needs to evolve. Language is only a reflection of societal attitudes. Racism still very much exists by the (shrinking) white majority. Therefore this idea of reverse racism also exists.
    Racism exits regardless of minority majority, it's time to expect more of everyone. stop making excuses why anyone should be treated differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildbill3 View Post
    Racism exits regardless of minority majority, it's time to expect more of everyone. stop making excuses why anyone should be treated differently.
    It's all "wrong" but when the majority is racist against the minority and systematically persecutes them it's worse. Undeniably worse. It's the difference between a sadist and a sadistic cop.

    I'd love to live in a world when we could all get passed it but this isn't that world. The Civil Rights Act is only 50 years old, there was two hundred years of systematic racial terror leading up to it. Ideas take longer than that to untrench and the effects -- in poverty, in a lack of education, in the psychology of expectation of social mobility -- will take generations to reverse. Pretending that all everyone needs to do is "stop making excuses" isn't helping. It's only going to make it take longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry_Bagpipe View Post
    Half Croatian. My mother was born there but I was born in england(lost my accent unfortunately), my dad was born there and his parents were born in Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalrus View Post
    It's all "wrong" but when the majority is racist against the minority and systematically persecutes them it's worse. Undeniably worse. It's the difference between a sadist and a sadistic cop.

    I'd love to live in a world when we could all get passed it but this isn't that world. The Civil Rights Act is only 50 years old, there was two hundred years of systematic racial terror leading up to it. Ideas take longer than that to untrench and the effects -- in poverty, in a lack of education, in the psychology of expectation of social mobility -- will take generations to reverse. Pretending that all everyone needs to do is "stop making excuses" isn't helping. It's only going to make it take longer.
    I agree with this, but taking a lopsided approach to it in terms of mindset seems like a step in the wrong direction as well.
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