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Thread: A fake conservative says what?

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    A fake conservative says what?






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    Of all the words to try and reclaim, why conservative? Ron Paul is the opposite of a conservative.
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    Ron Paul is a Classical Liberal, which is great.

    I'm so sick of people going "Ya, well I"m Conservative," yet go right on the offensive about how they hate gay people, abortions, and how they want the government to be gigantic and deal with them, as well as other "undesirables" that they can't stand. No, you're not conservative, you're just a big government socialist. Or the ones who are convinced the US is going to hell in a handbasket and that we'd better start preparing for the next Civil War soon. Don't get it at all. I think too many people are on drugs these days, and not the good ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetragrammaton View Post
    Of all the words to try and reclaim, why conservative? Ron Paul is the opposite of a conservative.
    When it comes to the small government conservative philosophy of more freedom, sound fiscal/monetary policies, following the constitution and less government in our lives. Romney can't hold a candle to Paul and those principles.

    Obama vs. Romney 2012 is nothing but a choice between which big brother you want in your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CedarPhin View Post
    Ron Paul is a Classical Liberal, which is great.

    I'm so sick of people going "Ya, well I"m Conservative," yet go right on the offensive about how they hate gay people, abortions, and how they want the government to be gigantic and deal with them, as well as other "undesirables" that they can't stand. No, you're not conservative, you're just a big government socialist. Or the ones who are convinced the US is going to hell in a handbasket and that we'd better start preparing for the next Civil War soon. Don't get it at all. I think too many people are on drugs these days, and not the good ones.

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    I agree.
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    Why do people have to be "pure" in what they believe? Why do they have to be 100% to the right, or 100% to the left, or they suck balls? That's how we get people like Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, and Ken Buck. You have these partisans going on headhunts about how they're going to make sure a "real" Conservative runs. How does one define "real"? Because they want to slash taxes, programs, and spending, then show the rest of the country how awesome they can be when they shoot an M-16 in the air, proclaiming that " 'merica rocks!"?

    This whole ideological purity nonsense is completely absurd. If you compromise and talk to the other side, you're a traitor to your district, state, and country. It's pretty ****ed up how things have gotten. Kind of scary too.
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    But there is nothing conservative about Ron Paul's approach. He wants to radically remake the United States. Ron Paul is either a liberal or a right-wing libertarian.

    It is funny how we associate the world conservative with authoritarian economics mixed with liberal economic principles. Romney wants to keep deficit spending and wars, which is a conservative approach to changing the last twelve years. Obama is a conservative too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CedarPhin View Post
    Why do people have to be "pure" in what they believe? Why do they have to be 100% to the right, or 100% to the left, or they suck balls? That's how we get people like Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, and Ken Buck. You have these partisans going on headhunts about how they're going to make sure a "real" Conservative runs. How does one define "real"? Because they want to slash taxes, programs, and spending, then show the rest of the country how awesome they can be when they shoot an M-16 in the air, proclaiming that " 'merica rocks!"?

    This whole ideological purity nonsense is completely absurd. If you compromise and talk to the other side, you're a traitor to your district, state, and country. It's pretty ****ed up how things have gotten. Kind of scary too.
    When it come to the ultra partisans like Christine O'Donnell and the like, I totally agree. The one's that stand on principle to the point of defying their own party are the one's I like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetragrammaton View Post
    But there is nothing conservative about Ron Paul's approach. He wants to radically remake the United States. Ron Paul is either a liberal or a right-wing libertarian.

    It is funny how we associate the world conservative with authoritarian economics mixed with liberal economic principles. Romney wants to keep deficit spending and wars, which is a conservative approach to changing the last twelve years. Obama is a conservative too.

    Our current polices are the radical ones. I see him more as a libertarian/constitutionalist. The modern day "conservative" is a lie just as much as Obama's/Dems/liberalism/socialist is a lie. Where's Snake???
    A true conservative by definition wouldn't have supported the policies of Bush and Romney as well. IMO if Bush really was a conservative that followed the constitution. We wouldn't have the mess we have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolphins9954 View Post
    When it come to the ultra partisans like Christine O'Donnell and the like, I totally agree. The one's that stand on principle to the point of defying their own party are the one's I like.
    I like people who stick to their guns too. I don't like the uber partisans either, right or left. The Occupy douchebags are just as bad as the Tea Party as far as I'm concerned.

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