if ross keeps hiring and firing head coaches or does some shady stuff under the table like he did with the harbaugh courtship he's just gonna continue to turn away potential future high end candidates...philbin now should get a fair shake...one years not gonna do it...we hope he doesn't tell us he's not the guy in one year at least...the league pays attention to stuff like this...if ross wants to change his perception he better get this right...
again i don't see philbin being a hard sell to a gm at this point...but ireland thats proved already to be a tough sell to hc candidates
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OT: This could turn out to be the best debate we have had in some time. Hopefully it is only a debate and not a discussion we are having in 6 months.
In the unlikely scenario that we went 0-16 or 1-15 what do you do if you are Ross, get rid of Philbin and Ireland? Not sure myself, hopefully he doesn't have the decision to make.
For the record Ross going after Harbaugh was probably the right thing to do, getting rid of Sparano first should have been done though. I've said it a few times but going after Harbaugh makes me think Ireland knew Sparano was useless and had Sparano imposed on him as his coach by Parcells, but I've no evidence of any of it. Should have just got rid of Sparano and had a normal recruiting process for a new head coach.
What we have is a "common sense" disagreement. One person clearly believes it "common sense" that if Jeff Ireland is fired then Joe Philbin is also out, while the rest of everyone else (i.e. the 'commons') think it "common sense" that Philbin will continue on since he was only just hired this year...provided he doesn't totally sh-t the bed and/or alienate everyone in the organization (things that seem hard to imagine based on what we've seen so far) like Cam Cameron and Hue Jackson did.
I expect 3 more seasons of Ireland possibly 2 if we continue the path of the Titanic. Ross obviously bought off on keeping him and changing both the offense and the defense so one would hope he knows that takes time. Like it or not Jeffy gets a pss this year.
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What if we finish with 6 or 7 wins? What does Ross do with Ireland? You can only win 6 or 7 games for so long.
Miami could go 6-10 again this year and Ireland and Philbin will both be back. I'll bet on it. Its going to take multiple seasons of losing for him to fire Ireland, especially after he just drafted a QB at #8 overall who will not even play until 2013. And after multiple losing seasons, I'm pretty sure Philbin goes too. Its easy to replace a coach and keep the GM, but rarely do teams keep the coach and change GMs.
People forget that Ross has spent all offseason defending Ireland, and chose Ireland over Jeff Fisher just a few months ago - thats how much confience he has in him. You think hes going to renig on that commitment after 1 year? Just because you dont like Ireland doesnt mean he will be fired after this year.
i still to this day cannot believe a smart businessman like ross could ever ever think that what he was doing was a good idea...it's just baffling