Fantastic post.The ****? I have already stated more than once that I accept the notion that one cannot have "Godly" morality without God. However, that does not make all moral viewpoints arbitrary (unless you are so narrow minded as to only view Godly morality as morality, which is an incorrect definition of the term). My question about the smell of **** -- which, ironically, you avoided -- is part of how I explain my own morality.
Here's a passage from Numbers (slighted edited for brevity):
"Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals...
Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves."
Defend the morality of raping virgins, big guy.
Here's another from Deuteronomy:
"As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you."
So God says, if the people you want to conquer will not agree to be slaves, you must kill the men but can keep women and children as spoils of war. What a guy.
Deuteronomy also has a charming "law" regarding rape:
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her."
Watching you defend that should be amusing. Along with this:
"If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife."
Indeed, a woman who doesn't cry out loudly enough while she's being raped needs to be killed. A Law and Order episode written by God would have a hell of a different flavor, wouldn't it?
In 2 Samuel (I'm not quoting it here since the wording is sort of convoluted), God punishes David first by sending his wives to be raped by David's neighbor, and then by killing David's child.
Here's one of my favorites, this one from Exodus:
"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment."
Ok, now explain to me how Christianity is consistent with believing rape is wrong again.
But expect the choosing and picking to begin.
"Oh, this is not what I go by"
"Oh this is from some friggin 60th Testament which has been replaced by #237 and #455"
Bottomline is that the 'godly' religion is based on murder, incest, rape and robbery.