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    Rex Ryan still believes that the Wildcat is viable offense in the NFL

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    Funny, wasn't his team calling the Wildcat a "clown offense" when the Dolphins killed them with it back in 2009?
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    Rex Ryan and his ground-and-pound bull**** is the reason why Mark Sanchez will have another mediocre season. The Jets could have above average QB play if they would simply adjust to the rule changes like everyone else with half a brain.

    Rex Ryan's faith in the run game reminds me 50 year-old hippie guy with the pony tail smoking pot with the young kids at the Nickelback show still sporting his Crosby Stills & Nash shirt from his 20's.

    Give it up, you retard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Rex Ryan and his ground-and-pound bull**** is the reason why Mark Sanchez will have another mediocre season. The Jets could have above average QB play if they would simply adjust to the rule changes like everyone else with half a brain.

    Rex Ryan's faith in the run game reminds me 50 year-old hippie guy with the pony tail smoking pot with the young kids at the Nickelback show still sporting his Crosby Stills & Nash shirt from his 20's.

    Give it up, you retard.
    I'm convinced that Jabba is obsessed with resurrecting the 1985 Chicago Bears ... or maybe the 1935 Chicago Bears complete with leather helmets ... to demonstrate his coaching "genius". Tebow, a "QB" who can't pass, and the wildcat are part and parcel of Jabba's "plan". A 250 pound bruiser with Jesus on his side will surely put the fear of God into opposing defenses, I guess the thought is, even if his errant downfield throws are as likely to end up being caught by DBs as WRs.

    I think that Jabba's reasoning is that, if the rest of the league is building Ds to stop the passing game, then those same Ds won't be any good against the rush. After all, we all know that only Jabba is a great enough defensive coach to build a D that stops both cuz he told us so, and it's perfect contrarian logic: do the opposite of what everybody else is doing.

    That the Jests don't actually have the personnel to run the "ground and pound" is immaterial. Never mind that they don't have a blocking TE on the roster. Never mind that Shonn Greene doesn't make many yards that the OL doesn't get for him. Tony Sparano will fix everything, but especially the Jests mediocre OL, including the travesty that is Wayne Hunter, the busting of Vlad Ducasse, and the lack of depth on the OL, all by playing musical linemen in TC and into the regular season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinzua View Post
    I'm convinced that Jabba is obsessed with resurrecting the 1985 Chicago Bears ... or maybe the 1935 Chicago Bears complete with leather helmets ... to demonstrate his coaching "genius". Tebow, a "QB" who can't pass, and the wildcat are part and parcel of Jabba's "plan". A 250 pound bruiser with Jesus on his side will surely put the fear of God into opposing defenses, I guess the thought is, even if his errant downfield throws are as likely to end up being caught by DBs as WRs.

    I think that Jabba's reasoning is that, if the rest of the league is building Ds to stop the passing game, then those same Ds won't be any good against the rush. After all, we all know that only Jabba is a great enough defensive coach to build a D that stops both cuz he told us so, and it's perfect contrarian logic: do the opposite of what everybody else is doing.

    That the Jests don't actually have the personnel to run the "ground and pound" is immaterial. Never mind that they don't have a blocking TE on the roster. Never mind that Shonn Greene doesn't make many yards that the OL doesn't get for him. Tony Sparano will fix everything, but especially the Jests mediocre OL, including the travesty that is Wayne Hunter, the busting of Vlad Ducasse, and the lack of depth on the OL, all by playing musical linemen in TC and into the regular season.
    "ground and pound" is a philospohy, it doesn't mean we will be running 60% of the time. I would bet we will still throw more than run but it's a mindset, a physical style of play for the OL and hopefully it works.

    When bashing Greene just keep in mind w/ a bad OL a year ago he still averaged over 4 YPC and tebow will be a big help to our ground game w/ the WC and running out of base sets.


    I don't know where this notion comes from that you need to have a top passing game or you need to pass much more than you run to win.

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    every year running teams are going deep into postseason so why is it crazy to want to establish a ground game?

    Wayne Hunter was a starter on a title game team and we have good OL everywhere except RT, it's not like the OL completely sucks barring injuries.

    The Ol should be much better, not 2009 better but much better than '11. We have deep threats in this offense which should help, we have a good pass catching TE, sanchez is passing the ball better than he ever has. This O should at least be middle of the pack and w/ our D that should be good enough to get back to postseason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinzua View Post
    I'm convinced that Jabba is obsessed with resurrecting the 1985 Chicago Bears ... or maybe the 1935 Chicago Bears complete with leather helmets ... to demonstrate his coaching "genius". Tebow, a "QB" who can't pass, and the wildcat are part and parcel of Jabba's "plan". A 250 pound bruiser with Jesus on his side will surely put the fear of God into opposing defenses, I guess the thought is, even if his errant downfield throws are as likely to end up being caught by DBs as WRs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike13 View Post
    Daddy's team? Freud would **** his pants.
    Seriously! Remember DaBears' Refrigerator (William Perry), the big DLer who played OL on the goal line? Well, Jabba's got "Refrigerator Lite": CB Cromartie is going to play WR on occasion (and the wags keep laughing at the Fins' WRs! ) plus he'll do Daddy at least one better with Savior Tebow: QB/HB/STer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Rex Ryan and his ground-and-pound bull**** is the reason why Mark Sanchez will have another mediocre season. The Jets could have above average QB play if they would simply adjust to the rule changes like everyone else with half a brain.

    Rex Ryan's faith in the run game reminds me 50 year-old hippie guy with the pony tail smoking pot with the young kids at the Nickelback show still sporting his Crosby Stills & Nash shirt from his 20's.

    Give it up, you retard.
    gotta disagree with you on that 1. The ground n pound is what took them to the afc championship game 2 years in a row. You can argue that there defense was the reason but at crucial times the run game won them the tough games against the chargers for one. If anything mark sanchez needs the run game to help him out and take some weight off his shoulders. The jets offense is hurting because they have the same issues we have, WR not gettin seperation and serious o-line problems protecting the qb. Sanchez is gettin hurried every damn throw. Without a ground game your passing game will be weak, the ground games makes it to where the defense has to keep atleast 3 lbs out there the first 2 downs. If u dont run it the defense can just play a soft zone with nickel and dime cbs and you will have a hard time finding a lane to throw in if the pass rush doesnt get to u . Just cause the dolphins run game has sucked for 2 decades now u have this vision that the run game is not apart of football, its incorrect. look at the texans, they pound that rock with arian foster and almost made it to the afc championship game had there qb not gotten hurt.

    Run game will always be be a huge part of football and is a big part of every offense. Now some teams might favor the passing game and thats fine, but if u dont balance it and pick up yards on the ground a good defense is going to give u a ****load of trouble. Il give u an example, saints vs 49ers last year in the playoffs, saints got behind and stopped running the ball which they usually do alot of. Who won that game? niners did, the saints tried to get back in the game by strickly throwing the ball and threw picks after picks, thats what happens when you just throw the ball. Another example, giants vs packers last year, the champs could not run it on the giants defense and threw the ball heavily the rest of the game with little to no success, no run game to open it up and they lost.

    If u get a great balanced team going like cowboys of the 90s, thats when you got a dynasty, packers aint no dynasty, giants aint no dynasty, Saints aint no dynasty. The only team u can argue that were a dynasty with a dynamic passing game are the patriots but can u honestly say the patriots didnt run the ball with correy dillon'? Theres a reason why Legends like jimmy johnson, bill cowher, stick with the run game, its seperates the great teams from good teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarshallFin1 View Post
    gotta disagree with you on that 1. The ground n pound is what took them to the afc championship game 2 years in a row. You can argue that there defense was the reason but at crucial times the run game won them the tough games against the chargers for one. If anything mark sanchez needs the run game to help him out and take some weight off his shoulders. The jets offense is hurting because they have the same issues we have, WR not gettin seperation and serious o-line problems protecting the qb. Sanchez is gettin hurried every damn throw. Without a ground game your passing game will be weak, the ground games makes it to where the defense has to keep atleast 3 lbs out there the first 2 downs. If u dont run it the defense can just play a soft zone with nickel and dime cbs and you will have a hard time finding a lane to throw in if the pass rush doesnt get to u . Just cause the dolphins run game has sucked for 2 decades now u have this vision that the run game is not apart of football, its incorrect. look at the texans, they pound that rock with arian foster and almost made it to the afc championship game had there qb not gotten hurt.

    Run game will always be be a huge part of football and is a big part of every offense. Now some teams might favor the passing game and thats fine, but if u dont balance it and pick up yards on the ground a good defense is going to give u a ****load of trouble. Il give u an example, saints vs 49ers last year in the playoffs, saints got behind and stopped running the ball which they usually do alot of. Who won that game? niners did, the saints tried to get back in the game by strickly throwing the ball and threw picks after picks, thats what happens when you just throw the ball. Another example, giants vs packers last year, the champs could not run it on the giants defense and threw the ball heavily the rest of the game with little to no success, no run game to open it up and they lost.

    If u get a great balanced team going like cowboys of the 90s, thats when you got a dynasty, packers aint no dynasty, giants aint no dynasty, Saints aint no dynasty. The only team u can argue that were a dynasty with a dynamic passing game are the patriots but can u honestly say the patriots didnt run the ball with correy dillon'? Theres a reason why Legends like jimmy johnson, bill cowher, stick with the run game, its seperates the great teams from good teams.
    Ryan's version of the "ground and pound" is bull**** because the Jests are NOT built to be a dominant rushing team. They don't have a good enough OL and they don't have good enough RBs. Heck, they don't even have a blocking TE on their roster. You can't become a good rushing team by wishing it were so. You need to have the talent to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinzua View Post
    Ryan's version of the "ground and pound" is bull**** because the Jests are NOT built to be a dominant rushing team. They don't have a good enough OL and they don't have good enough RBs. Heck, they don't even have a blocking TE on their roster. You can't become a good rushing team by wishing it were so. You need to have the talent to do it.
    I dunno about that. Under the supervision of our former Meatball and his chip off the old Provolone OLC, the jest OL has shown an uncanny ability to open up holes. It will behoove the RBs to try to reach them before the defenders.







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