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Thread: Rex Ryan still believes that the Wildcat is viable offense in the NFL

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    Quote Originally Posted by CallMeDaddy View Post
    2010 4th quarter stats:

    Mark Sanchez:
    QBRat: 55.5
    com%: 46.2
    TD: 2
    INT: 4
    yards: 753
    YPA: 5.3

    Carson Palmer:
    QBRat: 77.7
    com%: 59.3
    TD: 9
    INT: 8
    yards: 1223
    YPA: 6.7

    When Behind:

    Mark Sanchez:
    QBRat: 76.5
    com%: 56.0
    TD: 8
    INT: 8
    Yards: 1827
    YPA: 7.3

    Carson Palmer:
    QBRat: 83.7
    Com%: 63.5
    TD: 15
    INT: 11
    Yards: 2469
    YPA: 6.6

    It looks like if you want a QB that is making plays to win in 2010, Palmer would be your guy over Sanchez.
    That's great, AGAIN you don't watch the games. I don't care what his #s are, he helped us comeback 4-5 times in the reg season. That doesn't show up int he stat sheet. A garabge time TD counts as much as a GW TD in stat sheets. Watch the games please.

    Quote Originally Posted by CallMeDaddy View Post
    And I know how you love to call Schaub a "Fantasy QB" so I looked at the stats:

    2010 4th quarter stats:

    Mark Sanchez:
    QBRat: 55.5
    com%: 46.2
    TD: 2
    INT: 4
    yards: 753
    YPA: 5.3

    Matt Schaub:
    QBRat: 94.8
    Com%: 62.1
    TD: 9
    INT: 3
    Yards: 1372
    YPA: 7.5

    When Behind:

    Mark Sanchez:
    QBRat: 76.5
    com%: 56.0
    TD: 8
    INT: 8
    Yards: 1827
    YPA: 7.3

    Matt Schaub:
    QBRat: 91.7
    COM%: 63.5
    TD: 17
    INT: 10
    Yards: 2993
    YPA: 7.9
    keep posting stats. When the Jets played the Texans, the texans D handed the texans O a TO inside the Jets 10 yd line up 1 w/ less than 2 mins left. A TD there makes it even more difficult to win, he couldn't lead them to that TD. sanchez w/ NO TOs left marches Jets 72 yds in 45 seconds for the win.

    Let's look at their other closes losses:
    29-23 L to SD, led 20-14 at the half, score 3 pts in 3rd and zero in 4th to lose.
    34-28 in OT to Bal- INT for TD to lose the game
    24-23 to Den, led 17-0 at half, scores 6 pts in 3rd and zero in 4th.

    let's look at close wins to see what he did to help them win:
    -brought them back from 27-10 down against a bad Wash team. Great job but it sures helps having the best WR in the game catching 12 passes for 158 yds and a TD(the game tying TD)
    -down 10 w/ 7 mins left vs. KC. win 35-31. Good job

    This compares to Sanchez leading late game wins at den, Cle, Det, vs. Hou, vs. Indy(playoffs). It's really impressive that hou played blowut games most of the year and Schaub had a great rating in meaningless 4th qtrs.

    Quote Originally Posted by truthbtold View Post
    I'll go to my grave screaming that we should have gone for 2 to take a 9 point lead. I don't care what the "book" says. Our defense played like **** all night and was totally gassed on that last drive. Stupid move by Rex not to take the opportunity to win on offense. We could have put the game away with the much better unit that night ... the offense. instead of ending the game right there, we gave the Dolphins an opportunity to break our hearts, and they almost did.
    I disagree, to go up 8 is still big. It forces their O to score a Td and get a 2 pt conversion which is not easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by MadDog 88 View Post
    Only in how you presented it. Detroit gave the game away, the d blows a lead twice and he is down by only 2 or 3 points. When Henne did it you dismissed them because he was down less then 7. You don't apply those rules to Sanchez.
    Of course Detroit gave away the game, why would we ever give Sanchez credit? If you can't see the difference btw those comeback wins I can't help you.
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    Why are we still arguing about Sanchez on this board, we've known he is terrible for quite awhile now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Rex Ryan and his ground-and-pound bull**** is the reason why Mark Sanchez will have another mediocre season. The Jets could have above average QB play if they would simply adjust to the rule changes like everyone else with half a brain.

    Rex Ryan's faith in the run game reminds me 50 year-old hippie guy with the pony tail smoking pot with the young kids at the Nickelback show still sporting his Crosby Stills & Nash shirt from his 20's.

    Give it up, you retard.
    gotta disagree with you on that 1. The ground n pound is what took them to the afc championship game 2 years in a row. You can argue that there defense was the reason but at crucial times the run game won them the tough games against the chargers for one. If anything mark sanchez needs the run game to help him out and take some weight off his shoulders. The jets offense is hurting because they have the same issues we have, WR not gettin seperation and serious o-line problems protecting the qb. Sanchez is gettin hurried every damn throw. Without a ground game your passing game will be weak, the ground games makes it to where the defense has to keep atleast 3 lbs out there the first 2 downs. If u dont run it the defense can just play a soft zone with nickel and dime cbs and you will have a hard time finding a lane to throw in if the pass rush doesnt get to u . Just cause the dolphins run game has sucked for 2 decades now u have this vision that the run game is not apart of football, its incorrect. look at the texans, they pound that rock with arian foster and almost made it to the afc championship game had there qb not gotten hurt.

    Run game will always be be a huge part of football and is a big part of every offense. Now some teams might favor the passing game and thats fine, but if u dont balance it and pick up yards on the ground a good defense is going to give u a ****load of trouble. Il give u an example, saints vs 49ers last year in the playoffs, saints got behind and stopped running the ball which they usually do alot of. Who won that game? niners did, the saints tried to get back in the game by strickly throwing the ball and threw picks after picks, thats what happens when you just throw the ball. Another example, giants vs packers last year, the champs could not run it on the giants defense and threw the ball heavily the rest of the game with little to no success, no run game to open it up and they lost.

    If u get a great balanced team going like cowboys of the 90s, thats when you got a dynasty, packers aint no dynasty, giants aint no dynasty, Saints aint no dynasty. The only team u can argue that were a dynasty with a dynamic passing game are the patriots but can u honestly say the patriots didnt run the ball with correy dillon'? Theres a reason why Legends like jimmy johnson, bill cowher, stick with the run game, its seperates the great teams from good teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarshallFin1 View Post
    gotta disagree with you on that 1. The ground n pound is what took them to the afc championship game 2 years in a row. You can argue that there defense was the reason but at crucial times the run game won them the tough games against the chargers for one. If anything mark sanchez needs the run game to help him out and take some weight off his shoulders. The jets offense is hurting because they have the same issues we have, WR not gettin seperation and serious o-line problems protecting the qb. Sanchez is gettin hurried every damn throw. Without a ground game your passing game will be weak, the ground games makes it to where the defense has to keep atleast 3 lbs out there the first 2 downs. If u dont run it the defense can just play a soft zone with nickel and dime cbs and you will have a hard time finding a lane to throw in if the pass rush doesnt get to u . Just cause the dolphins run game has sucked for 2 decades now u have this vision that the run game is not apart of football, its incorrect. look at the texans, they pound that rock with arian foster and almost made it to the afc championship game had there qb not gotten hurt.

    Run game will always be be a huge part of football and is a big part of every offense. Now some teams might favor the passing game and thats fine, but if u dont balance it and pick up yards on the ground a good defense is going to give u a ****load of trouble. Il give u an example, saints vs 49ers last year in the playoffs, saints got behind and stopped running the ball which they usually do alot of. Who won that game? niners did, the saints tried to get back in the game by strickly throwing the ball and threw picks after picks, thats what happens when you just throw the ball. Another example, giants vs packers last year, the champs could not run it on the giants defense and threw the ball heavily the rest of the game with little to no success, no run game to open it up and they lost.

    If u get a great balanced team going like cowboys of the 90s, thats when you got a dynasty, packers aint no dynasty, giants aint no dynasty, Saints aint no dynasty. The only team u can argue that were a dynasty with a dynamic passing game are the patriots but can u honestly say the patriots didnt run the ball with correy dillon'? Theres a reason why Legends like jimmy johnson, bill cowher, stick with the run game, its seperates the great teams from good teams.
    Ryan's version of the "ground and pound" is bull**** because the Jests are NOT built to be a dominant rushing team. They don't have a good enough OL and they don't have good enough RBs. Heck, they don't even have a blocking TE on their roster. You can't become a good rushing team by wishing it were so. You need to have the talent to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinzua View Post
    Ryan's version of the "ground and pound" is bull**** because the Jests are NOT built to be a dominant rushing team. They don't have a good enough OL and they don't have good enough RBs. Heck, they don't even have a blocking TE on their roster. You can't become a good rushing team by wishing it were so. You need to have the talent to do it.
    I dunno about that. Under the supervision of our former Meatball and his chip off the old Provolone OLC, the jest OL has shown an uncanny ability to open up holes. It will behoove the RBs to try to reach them before the defenders.






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    And then you throw in the terrible preparation and in-game coaching. There is no defense.
    But do it right. Fire everyone in the building. No survivors. , JiF Jetnation

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