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Thread: Rex Ryan still believes that the Wildcat is viable offense in the NFL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinzua View Post
    A "top ten type QB"? Really? Nobody except Jests homers have ever thought buttfumble was a "top ten" QB. Ever.

    Since the Jets had very limited success with the running game last season, it doesn't seem likely that will change under Sparano. He's underwhelming at best.
    Tebow cannot run or pass as well as Smith. He can probably throw the ball further however, although the chances of it coming close to his WR are 50-50 at best.
    Hill played in a triple option offense where passing was an afterthought. He's going to disappoint this season as he transitions -- if he can transition.
    Burress was the reason that buttfumble threw as many TDs as he did. Who on the current Jets roster replaces his red zone production?

    Good organizations don't overpay for mediocre WR with diva personalities, and three weeks into TC is a bit late to be "working on" finding an upgrade at starting RT.
    I don't care wht fantasy football fans think, he was a top 10 type QB- somewhere in the 8-12 range. You don't judge QBs based entirely on fantasy #s.

    The jets had similar running success as they had 2 years ago.

    Tebow runs and passes better than Smith. Notice how Brad was good for us and couldn't do anything for you? same thing w/ Maybin- you think we have better coaching?

    Hill is not expected to catch 70 balls, he'll probably catch 30-40 but as long as the yards per avg is high that will be ok.

    Burress' 8 TDs were why buttfumble threw 18 other TDs?

    Hill is a big target that can also get downfield.

    Mediocre? He's a SB MVP and nearly helped us get to a SB, he's not Stevie stone hands who puts up good fantasy #s but is nowhere to be found in crunch time.
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    Jets fan No. 1: "I should probably get a picture of [Mark] buttfumble. He is the starter." Jets fan No. 2: "buttfumble is a lot better but you wouldn't know it. The offense is so atrocious. See that scrimmage? Looked like Cortland out there. They'll probably put [Tim] Tebow out there and just say 'Run for your life.' "
    Mark buttfumble gets sacked during last Friday's preseason game against the Bengals. (AP)Ah, Jets fans. The painful eventuality these jaded folks feared entering training camp went something like this: The pressure of Tebow's popularity would overwhelm buttfumble, and he would crumble while the Chosen One ascended
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    I don't care wht fantasy football fans think, he was a top 10 type QB- somewhere in the 8-12 range. You don't judge QBs based entirely on fantasy #s.
    Who knew a Top-10 QB would finish his seasons 28th, 27th, and 23rd in QBR? QBR is bull**** right? It's a horrible indicator on how good a player is. That must explain why the real QBs like Brees, Rodgers, Brady, etc. are always at the top of a QBR list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhinzN703 View Post
    Who knew a Top-10 QB would finish his seasons 28th, 27th, and 23rd in QBR? QBR is bull**** right? It's a horrible indicator on how good a player is. That must explain why the real QBs like Brees, Rodgers, Brady, etc. are always at the top of a QBR list.
    Don't judge QBs based solely on QB ratings and fantasy stats and you won't have that issue in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    Don't judge QBs based solely on QB ratings and fantasy stats and you won't have that issue in the future.
    QBR isn't a fantasy stat. It's THE measuring tool of a QB who is worth a ****
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhinzN703 View Post
    QBR isn't a fantasy stat. It's THE measuring tool of a QB who is worth a ****
    yep, it gives you the same grade for making a play down 30 in the 4th qtr as down 6 in the 4th qtr. buttfumble led numerous late gam comebacks to help us win after the D and run game failed us. That doesn't show up on the QBR stat sheet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    Don't judge QBs based solely on QB ratings and fantasy stats and you won't have that issue in the future.
    Really? Just count active QBs with Super Bowl rings ... Brees 1, P Manning 1, Rodgers, P Manning 2, Roethlisberger 2, Brady 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinzua View Post
    Really? Just count active QBs with Super Bowl rings ... Brees 1, P Manning 1, Rodgers, P Manning 2, Roethlisberger 2, Brady 3.
    where did I say buttfumble was up w/ those guys?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    yep, it gives you the same grade for making a play down 30 in the 4th qtr as down 6 in the 4th qtr. buttfumble led numerous late gam comebacks to help us win after the D and run game failed us. That doesn't show up on the QBR stat sheet.
    Of course. Stats that set out to make buttfumble look bad when he really isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    where did I say buttfumble was up w/ those guys?
    You said he was Top 8 to 12. Those guys right there are Top 5 already. Kinzua listed Peyton Manning twice though
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhinzN703 View Post
    Of course. Stats that set out to make buttfumble look bad when he really isn't.

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    You said he was Top 8 to 12. Those guys right there are Top 5 already. Kinzua listed Peyton Manning twice though
    so 8-12 is now top 5? Name me the 8-11 better QBs in the 2010 season please.
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