Eli Manning (you'll argue this, but by your own "pressure" argument, he is elite)
Andrew Luck (even though I know you're going to argue this one, it's obvious to everyone he will be a top 5 QB much sooner than later)
There's 11 right there. I could even list another 5-6 who are on equal footing as buttfumble, but who'll probably end up better once they get a few more years experience.
Let the spinning commence...
In 2010 Brady, peyton, Rodgers, Brees, Ben, Vick, Rivers, Ryan and maybe Flacco. The rest aren't even in the discussion.
Do we get Eli '11 or Eli '10? Eli should be better but he's never shown consistency from year to year.
Rivers is a great fantasy QB, he'll put up better #s w/o a doubt.
I would like to see Luck play a reg season game first.
Newton still has something to prove, now he is expected to win which is a huge difference from a year ago.
Schuab is vastly overrated, another great fantasy guy.
Stafford plays in a dome and has Calvin Johnson.
There's room in the top 10 if he plays more like 2010 than 2011.
Just to be clear, I didn't call him a top 10 QB going into 2012. I was discussing 2010, he can be in 2012 but we'll see.
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Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Roethlisburger, Rivers, Vick, Ryan, Flacco, Freeman, Schaub, Cassel, Cutler.
Depends on the location. How many teams in domes have won the Super Bowl as opposed to teams in open-air stadiums?You don't think a dome QB has an advantage over outdoor QBs?
I know I know, stats don't mean anything. It's the leadership buttfumble shows that proves he was a Top 8-12 QB despite data as proof he wasn't.