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    From your link...

    UPDATE, May 31, 2012

    While we have already shared some of the critiques of this fact-check in a previous follow-up story, critics have since noted that two of our fellow fact checkers -- the Washington Post Fact Checker and the Associated Press -- offered more negative rulings on related claims.

    The Fact Checker addressed the apparent discrepancy succinctly in a follow-up column, saying "we did not evaluate the same thing."

    There’s a widespread misconception that we gave a Mostly True rating to Rex Nutting’s MarketWatch column. After our original fact-check published, White House spokesman Jay Carney tweeted, "PolitiFact backs MarketWatch analysis of federal spending under POTUS & predecessors." Many conservative bloggers read our fact-check the same way, as they attacked us.

    The assumption made by both sides is wrong. We examined at a Facebook post
    A review over a facebook page is not the same as a review of the Forbes article which Politifact will have to apparantely try to explain again to both democrats positively and republicans negatively is getting traction again.
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    ok I do apologize the numbers were off but I still think the main idea is true which is that spending has increased at the 2nd or 3rd lowest rate out of the presidents

    "That’s quite a bit larger than Nutting’s $140 billion, but by our calculations, it would only raise Obama’s average annual spending increase from 1.4 percent to somewhere between 3.4 percent and 4.9 percent. That would place Obama either second from the bottom or third from the bottom out of the 10 presidents we rated, rather than last."

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    so for republicans to paint him as worse then Bush is ludacris
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    Obama is BIG GOVERNMENT, thanks for shedding light on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nick1 View Post
    ok I do apologize the numbers were off but I still think the main idea is true which is that spending has increased at the 2nd or 3rd lowest rate out of the presidents

    "That’s quite a bit larger than Nutting’s $140 billion, but by our calculations, it would only raise Obama’s average annual spending increase from 1.4 percent to somewhere between 3.4 percent and 4.9 percent. That would place Obama either second from the bottom or third from the bottom out of the 10 presidents we rated, rather than last."

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    so for republicans to paint him as worse then Bush is ludacris
    No problem, its all about how you want to spin your numbers anyhow, for instance...

    One common way to measure federal spending is to compare it to the size of the overall U.S. economy. That at least puts the level into context, helping account for population growth, inflation and other factors that affect spending. Here’s what the White House’s own budget documents show about spending as a percentage of the U.S. economy (gross domestic product):

    2008: 20.8 percent
    2009: 25.2 percent
    2010: 24.1 percent
    2011: 24.1 percent
    2012: 24.3 percent
    2013: 23.3 percent
    Whether or not Bush or Obama spent more is just a political pissing match, both spent a crap load of money. Its like fat guys squabbling over whos the fattest by 5 pounds...when both are over 350.
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