Welcome to FinHeaven Fans Forums! We're glad to have you here. Please feel free to browse the forum. We'd like to invite you to join our community; doing so will enable you to view additional forums and post with our other members.



VIP Members don't see these ads. Join VIP Now
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 22

Thread: PFT: Phins loading up for next years draft, but will Ireland be there?

  1. -1
    phinatic1399's Avatar
    Diehard Phinatic!

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Dec 2008
    Posts:
    2,896
    vCash:
    197
    Loc:
    Syracuse, NY
    Thanks / No Thanks

    PFT: Phins loading up for next years draft, but will Ireland be there?

    The Miami Dolphins are making the moves of a team that doesnít expect to win this year. The Indianapolis Colts are making the moves of a team that wants to win right now.
    The trade that sent cornerback Vontae Davis from Miami to Indianapolis in exchange for the Coltsí 2013 second-round draft pick gives the Dolphins five picks in the first three rounds of next yearís draft: Miami already had its own picks, plus the Bearsí third-round pick in the Brandon Marshall trade.
    The Colts, on the other hand, are already down at least two, and possibly four, picks in next yearís draft. In addition to the second-round pick for Davis, the Colts have shipped their fifth-round pick to San Francisco, as part of this yearís draft-day trade that allowed the Colts to move up and pick receiver T.Y. Hilton. And the Colts could lose both their sixth-round pick (conditionally a part of the Davis trade) and their seventh-round pick (conditionally a part of their trade earlier this month with the Eagles).
    Trading away picks for players who can help the team win now is a surprisingly aggressive strategy for the Colts, who had the worst record in the league last year. Deciding to build for the future is an understandable strategy for the Dolphins, who werenít much better. The biggest question in Miami is whether the man making those trades for the future, G.M. Jeff Ireland, will be around to use those picks heís acquiring.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ry/rumor-mill/
    Quote Quote  

  2. -2
    Starter

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Jun 2011
    Posts:
    251
    vCash:
    1000
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Like it or not, Ireland will be here next year. New GM usually means a new head coach. Philbin doesn't have the clout to withstand a change like that. I'd be very disappointed if Ross replaced Ireland and Philbin is removed. Then Miami turns into the 2009 Browns who are still rebuilding 3 years later.
    Quote Quote  

  3. -3
    SpurzN703's Avatar
    I like your style Dude

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Oct 2004
    Posts:
    26,404
    vCash:
    17824
    Loc:
    Springfield, VA
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Cam Wake 91Ford LogoTannehill 172013 Dolphins Logo
    Ireland has to assume he'll be around to use these draft picks right? Otherwise why jeopardize your career by conceding this season which happens to be after a 20-28 three year span?



    Quote Quote  

  4. -4
    SpaceMountain16's Avatar
    Disgruntled

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Jul 2006
    Posts:
    7,290
    vCash:
    1287
    Loc:
    Purgatory
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by PhinzN703 View Post
    Ireland has to assume he'll be around to use these draft picks right? Otherwise why jeopardize your career by conceding this season which happens to be after a 20-28 three year span?
    Agreed.

    Ireland probably will STILL be here unless this team completely bottoms out at like 2-14, which they wont. 5-11, 6-10 is probable.

    So Ross will remain inexplicably loyal.
    "I told the team 7-9 is mediocre, and mediocrity is not going to be accepted here" - Tony Sparano

    "Well the cool breeze came on Tuesday, And the corn's a bumper crop
    And the fields are full of dancin' Full of singin' and romancin'
    The music never stopped." - Bob Weir

    Quote Quote  

  5. -5
    Gonzo's Avatar
    Administrator

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Mar 2004
    Posts:
    20,215
    vCash:
    15947
    Loc:
    Brooklyn
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Hydra logo
Gift received at 05-21-2014, 12:20 PM from DisturbedShifty1972 Dolphins Logo
    Quote Originally Posted by Exuro View Post
    Like it or not, Ireland will be here next year. New GM usually means a new head coach. Philbin doesn't have the clout to withstand a change like that. I'd be very disappointed if Ross replaced Ireland and Philbin is removed. Then Miami turns into the 2009 Browns who are still rebuilding 3 years later.
    Or the 2008 Falcons who only took one year. Changes are good and turn around can be extremely quick in today's league if you make the right decision. If they fire Ireland and bring in another schmuck, well, of course there will be no improvement. It no longer takes years to rebuild a team, unless you have a **** GM.





    Quote Quote  

  6. -6
    ckparrothead's Avatar
    Premium Member

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    May 2002
    Posts:
    47,122
    vCash:
    2610
    Loc:
    Tampa, FL
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Blog Entries:
    2
    Jeff Ireland assumes he'll be around next year.

    Steve Ross doesn't. He gave all the answer you needed to know when he was asked and he responded that it's "year to year". And you'll notice he focused on "I think we have good players" in his defense of Jeff Ireland.

    Well, what happens when it becomes apparent that we DON'T have good players? Uh oh.

    PFT brings up the exact right point, but they didn't go far enough. Five picks in the first 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds next year, well over $50 million in salary cap space, and a Head Coach that respects the separation of church and state between coaching and personnel, could be an enticing package. That could net a high quality prospective General Manager, especially if that guy happens to already be a fan of Ryan Tannehill. And if there's one thing Steve Ross is good at, it's looking to better-deal someone that he already has in pocket. Don't be surprised when there are rumors of secret meetings and Ross does the same thing to Ireland he did with Sparano prior to 2011. Except this time around, with all those draft picks and all that cap space, he may be more successful.
    Twitter: @ckparrot
    Quote Quote  

  7. -7
    dolfan_101's Avatar
    Perennial All-Pro

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    May 2004
    Posts:
    3,451
    vCash:
    1677
    Loc:
    Northern Califa
    Thanks / No Thanks
    for ****s sake give ireland the boot before he trades cam wake for peanuts.. let's not forget that we traded Brandon Marshall as well for more draft picks we hope this clown will use on the positions we traded away. how many steps backwards and sideways does this guy get to take before he gets whacked? some of you would be horrible bosses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo View Post
    Been one of my biggest issues with him. Every single year, EVERY YEAR, he makes one completely boneheaded signing that makes you think he went on a massive coke bender the night before, slept in the office, woke up still high as **** and started making calls to anybody that would answer at 4 AM on a weekday; which is apparently **** players like Naanee, Colombo, Barbie Carpenter, etc.
    Quote Quote  

  8. -8
    MadDog 88's Avatar
    Teddy Westside

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Jul 2008
    Posts:
    12,491
    vCash:
    7345
    Loc:
    Wichita, Kansas
    Thanks / No Thanks
    It would be unusual but not impossible to replace Ireland and keep Philbin. Philbin is widely respected in league circles, the cap space, picks and separation of power CK mentions should draw some quality candidates. I would hope that if Ross does replace Ireland that he looks to the Patriots, Packers, Eagles or even Mike Homgren as a personnel guy who can work with Philbin.
    Quote Quote  

  9. -9
    FinHeaven VIP

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Apr 2005
    Posts:
    900
    vCash:
    1055
    Thanks / No Thanks
    This team is looking more and more like a 3 to 6 win team. Is that bad enough for Ross to replace Ireland? If Tannehill looks like the long term answer, I dont think it is.
    Quote Quote  

  10. -10
    PJack's Avatar
    DEPRESSED BY REALITY

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Mar 2006
    Posts:
    1,641
    vCash:
    1892
    Loc:
    CT
    Thanks / No Thanks
    I was/am angry over the Marshall and Davis trades. At first it was because it clearly showed we had no real intention of being competitive this year, but I got over that realizing we are cleaning out the trash...the guys that are all out for themselves. Now I'm all aboard that direction.

    HOWEVER, if Ireland is making those picks next April, that clearly shows me that Ross doesn't get it. IMO Ireland has had time to demonstrate an ability to make good choices, and thusfar has proven totaly incapable of building a team to win in the modern NFL.
    Quote Quote  

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 14
    Last Post: 01-01-2013, 12:04 AM
  2. Replies: 6
    Last Post: 10-09-2012, 12:43 PM
  3. Why after 5 years do we still not have a seem threat TE under Ireland
    By phinatic1399 in forum Miami Dolphins Forum
    Replies: 45
    Last Post: 09-02-2012, 01:47 PM
  4. When does Ireland get held ACCOUNTABLE for five years of bad drafts?
    By Strangeworld in forum Miami Dolphins Forum
    Replies: 121
    Last Post: 08-22-2012, 12:42 AM
  5. This years downfall started with Ireland and Ross
    By Mac in forum Miami Dolphins Forum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 09-27-2011, 05:11 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •