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Thread: Who are the Elite Players in this Draft (2013)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiDolphin618 View Post
    Hunter just has to prove he can stay healthy for me. He has great ball skills though. As far as movement goes, that is what separates Allen for me. I think he has terrific balance and feet, and he is in and out of his breaks extremely smooth. I don't think he is as smooth as AJ Green was...but that is kind of what I thought of when I watch him. Blackmon was elite with the ball in the air...but I like Allen in just about every other aspect.
    AJ Green is an interesting comparison. I can definitely see that.
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    When is Andre Ellington eligible for the draft? He is a beast even without Sammy Watkins on the field to draw attention.
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    2013 Woods

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    I've got Matt Barkley, Logan Thomas, Bjoern Werner, Keenan Allen, Star Lotulelei, Manti Te'o, Shayne Skov and Sean Porter. Most would have Barkevious Mingo in there. I didn't see his first game yet. There's also a possibility of Justin Hunter getting in there, provided he stays healthy this year (big deal). When all is said and done there's a possibility Dee Milliner or Carrington Byndom is in there as well. I keep thinking David Amerson's going to be a safety. Most would have Chance Warmack as an elite. I think James Gayle and/or Dion Jordan could/should very well end up there.
    What about Jarvis Jones? He has to be up there towards the elite I would think. He is making impact plays all over the field tonight
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    tell ya this much Sam Montgomery and Kiki Mingo are looking a lot like Freeney and Mathis on LSU's defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChambersWI View Post
    tell ya this much Sam Montgomery and Kiki Mingo are looking a lot like Freeney and Mathis on LSU's defense.
    Im a huge Mingo fan. He is ridiculously explosive. You pack some more muscle on him and you've got a special player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiDolphin618 View Post
    Im a huge Mingo fan. He is ridiculously explosive. You pack some more muscle on him and you've got a special player.
    I really like Mingo as well. Do you think he'd fit as an outside linebacker for Miami or as an end? Also, how would you compare him to Bjorn Werner? I haven't seen a lot of Werner other than highlights, but he seems to be the better run defender and also very quick off the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SF Dolphin Fan View Post
    I really like Mingo as well. Do you think he'd fit as an outside linebacker for Miami or as an end? Also, how would you compare him to Bjorn Werner? I haven't seen a lot of Werner other than highlights, but he seems to be the better run defender and also very quick off the ball.
    I definitely think he's a 4-3 DE all the way. He could play 3-4 OLB I think...but he's better at end I think. As far as a comparison...its kind of apples to oranges even though they play the same position. Mingo has top shelf tools...in the JPP mold..or Von Miller. He is an explosive athlete...gets good bend for his size..and actually understands the leverage game a bit. Best pure pass rusher and highest ceiling of any defensive player in the draft IMO. I haven't seen quite as much as Werner...but he is a great prospect as well in his own right. He is a monster...very strong hands and knows how to use them. Reads the backfield well which makes him exceptional against the run as well. He's pretty athletic for his size...but will beat you with power as well. See what JJ Watt did to us today??...yeah thats the type of impact Werner could have.

    I have Mingo rated higher because I think he's a better pure pass rusher...and he has a higher ceiling. Id take JPP over Watt any day...but Werner would be a great addition too. Im pretty sure he's got like 5 sacks already this year
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    I don't think Mingo works very well opposite Wake. That said, depending on the board, I could still be very happy taking Mingo as a pass rush specialist that - just like I would have been happy taking Aldon Smith in 2011. Well, I don't like him as much as I liked Smith, but same idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-off-her-doll View Post
    I don't think Mingo works very well opposite Wake. That said, depending on the board, I could still be very happy taking Mingo as a pass rush specialist that - just like I would have been happy taking Aldon Smith in 2011. Well, I don't like him as much as I liked Smith, but same idea.
    I think with his frame he can pack on 15 lbs easy. Plus, this is a passing league. We have Starks and big Paul up the middle...with a very solid linebacking core. Our run defense isn't the problem...I would rather be a top 12 run defense instead of top 3 with Mingo and actually have a legitimate pass rush. Plus like you said...you can keep Odrick as the starter and work Mingo as a specialist until he packs on some weight. I like him better than I liked Aldon Smith btw
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