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    Quote Originally Posted by silverfin View Post
    Joeckel is a first round lock, maybe even a top 5 pick. Taylor Lewan will likely be off the board in the first too as will Fisher IMO. I don't think Ireland can spend our first round pick on an OT especially since we drafted Martin who will likely slide to LT, so it'd be a first rounder on a guy whose gonna be playing RT. I just don't see it. If Jake was to walk then I'd say we'd probably need to use one of our second rounders to fill in the void.

    Aboushi is a guy I definitely think can be had in the second. As you say he'd fit our system and has good athleticism although he may be a bit raw ... gets beat too often by speed rushes from what I've watched of him. He's got good versatility though since he has experience playing both tackle positions. If we are going to slide Martin over to LT then D.J. Fluker is a natural right tackle .... although I question whether he has the athleticism to fit our system. He looks more of a run blocker and a pure size guy to me. Kyle Long (Chris' brother from the Rams) from Oregon is another guy I'm interested in. That dude is some athlete, although I think he could be had in the second round because technique wise he still seems a bit raw to me. Good pass blocker too.
    no real arguments with any of that...although jake matthews should be a 1st round pick lock tackle...fluker fits a power scheme so i'd pass on that in a zbs...aboushi i have watched for 4 years i think he's underrated but again a guy you'd have to wait on probably...kyle long is interesting but i always get nervous when it comes to guys from those type of schemes...and oregon is not very pro like...

    i think all 5 guys i mentioned go in the top 2 rounds aboushi the only one that gets there...not sure where i'd project long yet...
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    as for todays action washington boise did not dissappoint...terrific game...although the qb price for washington was late all over the place and took bad sacks instead of getting rid of the ball...i had the # wrong for the wr williams but that kids a high round pick down the line wr he's a load to tackle and he's a murder run blocker down field...just about every one of those big runs by washington williams had sealed a man off at the second level...he just needs to get off the los with more burst and develop some polish to his game but that kid can play...

    desmond trufant had one bad play all game long and i'm not even sure it was a bad play may have been more coverage dictated as in the coverage played too soft and with leverage that if the qb had time would give up the gain but it was a crucial conversion late in the game...although there was a blatant missed hold on the edge on the play with a guy turning the corner on the qb...

    anyways trufant didn't get much action and it was for good reason...he had his responsibility locked down all game long...transitions out of his pedal very well fluid hips he had his head in the backfield while carrying guys down the sideline on the inside just feeling the wr down the field...didn't get beat over the top even when he squated he had the acceleration and burst necessary to still be even...played the throw back trick play extremely well...

    gave up one other catch in the first half and i'm fairly certain that was coverage dictated and inside leverage on an outside breaking route...he also played a deep ball beautifully over the top of the wr and came back and high pointed the ball for an incompletion ball knock down

    the te seferian jenkins remember that name in 2013...he's a top 50 te and maybe the #1 off the board next year...he sits down well vs zone and soft coverage and is solid in line and deceptive down the seam...not a burner and off the los at times he'll leave you kinda ehh but he understands coverages and leverage and if price wasn't so late all the time would be a 1000 yard te this year...as it is he still finished with 850 yards...
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    If we sign Mike Wallace or Greg Jennings in FA would make more sense to draft Tyler Eifort or Keenan Allen? I would prefer a dominant pass rusher too but that just isnt happening at pick 15 or so. Signing Wallace and drafting Eifort would really keep safeties occupied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooshoops View Post
    as for todays action washington boise did not dissappoint...terrific game...although the qb price for washington was late all over the place and took bad sacks instead of getting rid of the ball...i had the # wrong for the wr williams but that kids a high round pick down the line wr he's a load to tackle and he's a murder run blocker down field...just about every one of those big runs by washington williams had sealed a man off at the second level...he just needs to get off the los with more burst and develop some polish to his game but that kid can play...

    desmond trufant had one bad play all game long and i'm not even sure it was a bad play may have been more coverage dictated as in the coverage played too soft and with leverage that if the qb had time would give up the gain but it was a crucial conversion late in the game...although there was a blatant missed hold on the edge on the play with a guy turning the corner on the qb...

    anyways trufant didn't get much action and it was for good reason...he had his responsibility locked down all game long...transitions out of his pedal very well fluid hips he had his head in the backfield while carrying guys down the sideline on the inside just feeling the wr down the field...didn't get beat over the top even when he squated he had the acceleration and burst necessary to still be even...played the throw back trick play extremely well...

    gave up one other catch in the first half and i'm fairly certain that was coverage dictated and inside leverage on an outside breaking route...he also played a deep ball beautifully over the top of the wr and came back and high pointed the ball for an incompletion ball knock down

    the te seferian jenkins remember that name in 2013...he's a top 50 te and maybe the #1 off the board next year...he sits down well vs zone and soft coverage and is solid in line and deceptive down the seam...not a burner and off the los at times he'll leave you kinda ehh but he understands coverages and leverage and if price wasn't so late all the time would be a 1000 yard te this year...as it is he still finished with 850 yards...
    So disappointed in Price this year. Had an amazing season last year where he looked like he could be a QB to watch in early rounds. Then he became a weakness this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChambersWI View Post
    So disappointed in Price this year. Had an amazing season last year where he looked like he could be a QB to watch in early rounds. Then he became a weakness this year
    that washington team could do damage next year if they had a qb...they still probably can win 8 games though...some high end looking talenton that team...qb holding them back
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    smus margus hunt holy moses that kids body beautiful...6 ft 8 280 lbs and gets off the ball extremely well off the edge...he's got an awful lot going for him i can tell ya that...i think his pass rush upside and explosion off what i'm seeing is better than that of bjoern werner...a little taller than i'd like but this kids got physical tools like jj watt level...man this kids impressive and he's another that's gonna destroy the combine...stacks well and when guys try to cut him or get in his legs he does a really nice job staying on his feet...very athletic...

    only played football 4 years also...god dang...that kid looks sweet...i think he's a liability as far as at the poa vs the run at this stage seems to get moved off the los too much needs to get stouter and play with better leverage and he's another that looks like can get lazy pursuit wise...he's half assing it a lot when the plays away from him...i also see some stiffness in his hips but nothing that can't work with a 43 de...he's just kinda straight linish and doesn't have great cod...but this guys just scratching the surface...

    one of the few 280 lbers who has the tools to win against nfl tackles off the edge...he's got serious tools...i think his quickness if shifted inside in the nickle would give guards serious issues...not a every down de to begin with which will hurt his stock but you can bet bottom dollar he's going in my top 50 bpa and someone that i view as a day 1 situational rusher and pass rush specialist who can shift inside...

    if he goes to the senior bowl and looks the way i think he could as a pass rusher in one on ones etc he could seriously help his stock...i hope he gets an invite...
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    updated includes all miami targets top 3 rounds if i was calling the shots off to date study...still a lot of guys to look at

    wr
    keenan allen top 20 bpa
    robert woods
    terrence williams
    steadman bailey top 50 bpa
    quinton patton
    marquess wilson
    marcus wheaton

    slot wr
    tavon austin
    ryan swope 3rd round

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    jonathon banks top 20 bpa
    desmond trufant top 50 bpa
    terry hawthorne top 75 bpa

    safety
    kenny vaccaro top 50 bpa
    tony jefferson
    philip thomas
    baccari rambo

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    tyler eifert top 30 bpa
    zach ertz 2nd round

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    jake matthews top 20 bpa
    taylor lewan
    oday aboushi 2nd round
    eric fisher
    luke joeckel top 10 bpa

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    jonathon cooper top 40 bpa
    chance warmack top 20 bpa

    rt/og
    barrett jones top 50 bpa

    de
    alex okafor top 50 bpa
    margus hunt top 50 bpa
    barkevious mingo top 5 bpa

    dt
    will sutton top 50 bpa

    43 lb
    arthur brown top 50 bpa
    cj moseley

    with de i'm pass rush first and foremost...mingo and hunt have rediculous get off and explosion that will give tackles fits...okafors not as explosive with the get off or burst off the edge but he's got something to him that i really like...you'll notice i don't have ansah on my list nor do i have olb dion jordan ansah does not have enough pass rush upside and explosion and jordans a stand up 34 olb all the way...

    i wonder with s philip thomas if he has the top end speed to warrant a 1st round pick...i like his range and his coverage abilities and he's quite heady player but i have questions about long speed...need to see more

    ot eric fishers grade still to come same for taylor lewan...

    cj moseley may be more a weakside backer at the next level...i struggle with his strength at the poa...very instinctual however...

    i may have terry hawthorne too low...that grade may be going up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2230 View Post
    If we sign Mike Wallace or Greg Jennings in FA would make more sense to draft Tyler Eifort or Keenan Allen? I would prefer a dominant pass rusher too but that just isnt happening at pick 15 or so. Signing Wallace and drafting Eifort would really keep safeties occupied.
    i would go allen...if i can't get mingo i would get allen and then look de if hunt or okafor were there with that high 2nd rounder...if not them corner makes a lot of sense to me there...think premium pass rush upside at de...not plugger
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    Quote Originally Posted by hooshoops View Post
    if he goes to the senior bowl and looks the way i think he could as a pass rusher in one on ones etc he could seriously help his stock...i hope he gets an invite...

    He has been invited (and accepted) to play the senior bowl already I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverfin View Post

    He has been invited (and accepted) to play the senior bowl already I believe.
    nice...get ready for a freak on the edge...thing is people are gonna see him get moved off the ball in the run game and bang him for it...there's no doubt leverage wise that height is gonna play against him...i don't think as a result of being so tall he's ever gonna be a stout poa guy although he's still so raw you never know but that off the edge initial step quickness with his hand in the dirt and the way he gets off the ball and that size and speed...thats called serious edge rush tools to work with...his get off and burst makes another guy of similar size last year in quentin coples off the ball look like chump change...he's a freak...

    no doubt in my mind that guys gonna flush a lot of qbs out of the pocket at least as a 3rd down rush specialist...at minimum...you teach that guy to get his hands up in passing lanes when he can't get to the qb and he's also gonna volleyball passes...

    that's the most interesting edge rush 280 lb guy i've seen in a while i know that...he has burst and explosion of a guy 30 lbs lighter...if he learns a redirect back inside counter move when tackles are cheating to get into their first kick step to the outside look out...
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