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    Nice to get a final look at Travis Kelce, Connor Vernon and Sean Renfree tonight. Think Camerron Cheatham may be worth keeping an eye on although he appears to not be covering Vernon.
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    Re: Margus

    I think what's missing is just experience. When his job isn't to rush the passer, he kind of goes into a "crane up and observe" mode. He'll get really high and look at what's happening before taking an action instead of just flowing naturally, by instinct, to the play. Best case is he turns into the Estonian version of Jason Pierre-Paul-- a freakish, but totally raw athlete. Worst case is he replaces Tony McDaniel on the roster for depth while making solid ST contributions like Olivier Vernon did this season.

    Hopefully teams will shy away from picking him after seeing the limitations of Dontari Poe's impact on the Chiefs. But, like Poe, I can see Hunt shooting up the boards and I'm afraid for our chances to pick him up since he'll probably have a similarly meteoric rise after he blows up the combine.

    Margus has incredible explosion, length, and balance-- three things that translate well to the position. Though they canned the track team because of Title 9 rules, SMU had the best throwers in the country at the time. Don't underestimate him just because he comes from a track background. They're all freak athletes with speed, flexibility, and they were all bull strong to boot.

    That said, I'm looking forward to the Senior Bowl.
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    If he is admittedly so far behind everyone else in the Draft...and he's 26 years old...how long does he realistically have to catch up?
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    That's something to consider, yeah.
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    vernon looks like a mid to late round guy to me that could surprise or could be out of the league or making his living on specials in a few...don't see anything high end there...ceiling to me as a prospect is a #3 wr type stuff...we got plenty of them...as such i pass...but i also won't put it past him making a pretty good living in the pros...just doesn't do enough for me for what miami needs....

    didn't see much from renfree that pick he threw into coverage down the sideline was a ghastly decision...just can't throw that against that coverage...should have come off that given that safety leverage presnap...

    margus huntsn age means instead of having to jump on that with your high 2nd rounder if he's a target you can probably get that a little later like late round 3 or maybe even round 4...if he was a target at that age though i wouldn't personally wait past that late 3rd rounder...i think about then is when the age won't matter anymore...if he blows the doors off the senior bowl in reps and looks like he does off the edge on college tape all bets are off
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    central michigan ot eric fisher is a 1st round talent offensive tackle...i don't see terrific feet for the left side in pass pro...his kick slide looks a little labored to me at times...feet remind me of jake long in a lot of ways...he's murder in the run game showing off terrific upper body and hand strength he moves guys off the ball routinely...funny thing is while i don't see great feet i do see outstanding ability to pull and get to the 2nd level in a hurry and he'll make solid sustained contact...at times he can drop his head when asked to move block and as such get off balance and go to ground but he looks like a real athlete and moves very well down the field...in pass pro i see a tendency at times to let the defender dictate the contact and to wait on guys and that's fine provided he doesn't get so upright off the snap i see some tendency to get vertical in pass pro and as such guys get under his pad level but he shows off a nice ability to recover and anchor and sit down vs get pushed straight back into the qb...

    i don't think i'd take him over jake matthews who i think is a terrific zbs fit and fisher might be a better fit for a power scheme but i do think he's a top 25 worthy selection in the upcoming draft...and a likely day 1 starting tackle...feet may though mean he's more a right tackle fit down the road...
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    Just a side note for Hoops CK and Slim..........thanks for all your input guy's keep up the great work.
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    I see a lot of posters talking about Bacarri Rambo as a must-have player from the draft to replace Clemons, and then they mock him to the third/fourth. I haven't seen anything on him, so I'm not sure which to believe. Is he a must-have/immediate starter over CC, or is he a mid-round prospect with some flaws?

    Of course, I'm sure there are those that would argue that a mid-round prospect with flaws beats Clemons hands down...



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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeMcAwful View Post
    I see a lot of posters talking about Bacarri Rambo as a must-have player from the draft to replace Clemons, and then they mock him to the third/fourth. I haven't seen anything on him, so I'm not sure which to believe. Is he a must-have/immediate starter over CC, or is he a mid-round prospect with some flaws?

    Of course, I'm sure there are those that would argue that a mid-round prospect with flaws beats Clemons hands down...
    Well, we are talking about Chris Clemmons.

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    alex okafor showing well tonight as a pass rusher...helping me feel more and more confident about why i like him off the edge in the pros as a top 50 guy...doesn't wow you with anything tools wise but just something about him i think will make him a solid producer in the pros...can't even put my finger on it...not a great get off not great acceleration or burst after the initial step but just very effective...

    that said in the run game i think he's a guy that gets moved out of the hole at the poa too much...not stout enough...maybe some of that is he's in such a hurry to get upfield he forgets about contain responsibilities vs the run but i see him giving huge lanes in the b gap for backs to just run right into too much...i'd say at least initially i'd use him sparingly in a rotation on early downs and get him on the field on 3rd down as a pass rush specialist...it's weird i'm usually all about pass rush physical tools when it comes to who i like and this kid doesn't have elite anything but he just keeps showing me something every time i watch texas play...
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