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Thread: My Two Cents on the Election

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fin_Frenzy_84 View Post
    Trust me I understand all presidents lie and do not do all there promises but Obama had a **** load of promises and has like 67 broken promises. I think its time for a change.... Bring Romney in!!!!

    Also Obama tripled the nations debt, he did take the troops out of iraq yet he also sent more troops before ending it, he also should of never leaked out the info on how the navy seals got osama...
    Really love how Romney has secured peoples vote: By being someone other then Barack Obama.

    Obama has alot of broken promises, but he much of what he promised has sat in the House floor being filibustered or shot down. This was the least productive Congress in over 60 years. That said, alot of what the House shot down was crap anyways, so little do i care.
    And Bush blew the surplus he inherited and got us into debt to begin with. Im unimpressed when people complain about the debt because they immediately urge people to vote for a Republican. Ive been posting it over and over again, trying to talk people into voting for Romney because Obama couldnt fix it is simply saying "A Democrat couldnt fix in 4 years what a Republican broke in 8, so lets vote in another Republican!". It makes no sense to me.

    Your right though. To say a politician is capable of deception is redundant and to say they are trustworthy is a contradiction of terms. That said, to secure my vote for the most powerful position on the face of the planet someone has to do more then "not be the other guy". He has to have vision or at least plans to fix the problems of our time and a willingness to make hard decisions. And Romney's "plans" are to have a plan after he gets elected. The stuff he has put forward has been beyond broken and even he has admitted to having no idea how to accomplish the things he wants to do. As well, Romney has proven himself way to eager to lie, cheat, and steal to get ahead. Believe it or not, i do try and focus my discussions around policy and positions, but Romney has come across as someone utterly without conviction. There isnt a stance he hasnt changed while running for public office and the next time he stands up to his own party will be the first.

    Its very, very, depressing to admit this, but with these two main candidates(and in many forms it will be two candidates because Romney campaign is trying to prevent people from voting third party) this election isnt about "if Obama deserves a second term"(he doesnt, period). This election is about if things could get much worse then they already are. And they can. Very much so.
    "Ignorance is not an excuse" were the words Goodell used when describing why those involved in the Saints bounty scandal would not avoid punishment.
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    There needs to be a national referandum on setting 8-12 year term limits on the House and Senate. With the same assclowns there it doesnt matter who the president is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDog 88 View Post
    There needs to be a national referandum on setting 8-12 year term limits on the House and Senate. With the same assclowns there it doesnt matter who the president is.
    Ted just won the PoFo. Truer words haven't been spoken...

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    I am all for term limits as a way of limiting corruption, but there has been a downside of all the turnover. A lot has been said over the importance of long standing relationships and how that helps reach across the aisle and get things done. Example being how Mitch McConnell and Joe Biden are apparently friendly and it allowed the crisis in the summer to get resolved.

    If we keep churning in new people especially ones that have no interest in compromising it will only further the gridlock.

    IMO it is the gridlock that is killing things. Both sides have important points, but this my way or the highway approach that leads to nothing getting done. Any politician crazy enough to actually compromise is at risk of getting primaried.
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    Term limits are a double edged sword. They might get rid of bad politicians faster than voters would but they limit what a "good" politician can accomplish. They also give more power to the parties since newer politicians are typically forced to rely upon them early in their career.

    There was a reason LBJ was so effective at getting legislation passed. And part of that was because he was in Washington for ~30 years.
    Not every human is a manipulative, opportunistic, letch... or at least that's what I'm told.
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    Can we really vote for a man that is bankrupting our country and taking us on the fast track toward Greece (with no one to bail us out) and and only wants to make EVERYONE middle class. Socialism at its best.
    So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins, For peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing.
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    How is Obama bankrupting the country anymore than Romney will plan to bankrupt the country. They are identical! One says stimulus the other says tax cuts. Either way we are running a deficit!
    You Sean Hannity/Rush Limbaugh fanboys are hilarious.

    The only way we get put in the same paragraph as Greece is if the congress refuses to let the debt ceiling like that Psychopath Bachman was urging folks to do.
    Then our interest rates triple and boom the debt triples.
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    Have you seen what he is doing to our country RIGHT NOW? Do you not understand Obamacare? My healthcare in preparation for his crap plan has gone down the crap hole and cost more. I don't listen to talk shows because of the bias but I do a lot of reading and from what I can tell your CNBC strpes are showing bright and clear. If you want to talk about psychopaths lets talk about Reid and Pelosi that still needs to read what is in the bill.
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    I promise you I understand the ACA a lot better than most. As a physician I will see the cuts to Medicare first hand.
    This is as opposed to the Ryan/Romney plan which will pass the cuts to the people(read ballooning premiums) not the providers(assuming they choose the Ryan budget as a blueprint).

    The ACA is flawed, but 90% of the criticism against it is simply untrue. One of those is the fact that it breaks the budget. The initial purpose of the ACA was to reign in the cost of rising Medicare costs. It succeeds at the expense of providers.
    In regards to Medicare costs the WORST thing we can do is to do NOTHING.

    ACA also forces to the insurance companies to keep from withholding care to people.
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    I am sorry but I have to disagree...I do a lot of research to make informed decisions and I have yet to read anything other then that it will break the budget in the future. The ones that say that it will obliterate the budget are immediately are right wing and the ones that say it will be balanced are left wing or Government literature. More neutral information says that (if I remember correctly) by 2020 or 2012 it will be hemorrhaging like some of our other current Government sponsored plans.
    BUT...If it is so wonderful and 90% of the criticism is untrue then how come..... 1.) I am experiencing it first had with my healthcare plan that we have been told straight forward that it is preparation for obamacare. (My plan used to be very good, not cheap but good.) Now it just sucks. And 2.) My Physician who, for now I can still go and see, is retiring in two years to go and take up teaching? You can call it "ACA" but if it looks like crap and smells like crap...guess what?

    This is just one topic that I am very disgusted about with the current president (and I VOTED for him) and truth is he makes me sick....just hope I get over it before obamacare kicks in or I have to give my fair share and be taxed for it.
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