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Thread: Keenan Allen, Justin Hunter, Robert Woods, who do you target in next years draft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    Like it or not this league is about size when it comes to the dominating forces at WR.

    Larry Fitzgerald, Calvin Johnson and Andre Johnson are widely considered the best WRs today, perhaps the best of our time. The thing they share in common is they're all freaking huge. Demaryius Thomas is coming into stardom, another huge guy. Brandon Marshall, gargantuan. A.J. Green, 6'4" and 215 lbs. Marques Colston, monstrously sized. Julio Jones 6'3" and 220+ lbs. Dwayne Bowe over 6'2" and 220+ lbs. Vincent Jackson is a monster. Anquan Boldin is big. Jordy Nelson is huge at 6'3" and about 220 lbs. Dez Bryant is huge. Miles Austin is 6'2" and 220 lbs. Eric Decker is 6'3" and 215 lbs. And then you've got guys like Hakeem Nicks who aren't huge on listings but seem like it on the field. Then you've got the players that don't have it anymore but used to dominate, like Randy Moss and Terrell Owens...huge guys.

    Heck even guys you wouldn't think of as big players, really do have decent size. Brian Hartline is 6'2". Roddy White is over 6'1" and was 207 lbs coming out, probably heavier now. Torrey Smith is over 6'1" and 205 lbs. Victor Cruz is 6'1" and 200+ lbs.

    There are certainly exceptions, I'm not saying there aren't. I think Marqise Lee and Stedman Bailey are going to be great examples of exceptions. I just think you do have to keep that in mind when you're looking at the very top of the WRs class and you see guys like Keenan Allen (6'3" and 220 lbs) and Justin Hunter (6'4" and 200+ lbs with plenty of room to grow out more). Those guys are up there because they have the potential to be dominating forces at the receiver position.
    It's a huge matchup problem. There simply aren't many corners with the size to match up against all those big receivers and towering tight ends. I don't think there are too many corners out there above 6-1. That and the rule changes limiting what corners can do makes it so much easier for receivers. And to your point it is one of the reasons I really like Allen and Hunter. Hunter simply wins the battles in the air. A quarterback can feel pretty comfortable knowing that his guy has the best chance to win a jump ball. Chris Chambers gave you that, but he was 5-11. It's the part of Hunter's game that can't be taught, kind of like horizontal speed so to speak. Allen to this point is the more well rounded of the two and doesn't have the injury concern, but I'd be very happy with Hunter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mage_Phin View Post
    Keenan Allen is an absolute stud. Don't see him falling to us unfortunately.
    I think the closer the team gets to .500 the less chance to land Keenan Allen. Right now it wouldn't surprise me to see him go top 10, even top 5. I don't think Miami will pick that high. Justin Hunter would be my next wr target. If he's gone, I'd wait to round 2 for wr help and draft best player, which would probably be a pass rusher or corner.
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    I can't really say too much about Justin Hunter as I haven't really watched a lot of him.

    I have watched a lot of Woods and Allen though.

    I live over in the West Coast so I watch all the Pac 12 games and I am admittingly a big USC fan so you can take my evaluation of Woods with a grain of salt if you wish.

    First off, I think Keenan Allen is going to be a better WR than Woods. I plan on watching more of Hunter at some point this year, but right now I would put Allen at the top of my wish list for the Dolphins to draft next year. He is a big WR (6-3 215) who is excellent at getting yards after the catch. I think he would be a perfect fit for the WCO since he does run a lot of slants and shorter patterns at CAL already. He also goes up and gets the ball on deep passes which is another thing that I like. I think Allen would be a great fit for this offense.

    Robert Woods is harder for me to get a grasp on. I'm a big USC fan and obviously Woods has been a huge contributor for a while there. He is an explosive playmaker with the ball in his hands and can definately be a good returner for us as well at the next level. I don't think he has elite speed or hands. He has very good speed and at times makes spectacular catches, but I don't think he really has an elite trait. I've seen some scouts call him the next "Greg Jennings" and while I believe he has that potential, I don't think he'll get quite up to that level. I think he is more of a mid 2nd round guy who has potential to be a solid starter in this league. I don't know if he will last to the 2nd round, but I wouldn't really take him before than imo.
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    Allow me to play contrarian.... Markus Wheaton From Oregon St.

    As for TE, Fauria from UCLA. I'd keep my eye on the 2 juniors from Standford (Ertz & Toilolo).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SF Dolphin Fan View Post
    A quarterback can feel pretty comfortable knowing that his guy has the best chance to win a jump ball. Chris Chambers gave you that, but he was 5-11.
    Steadman Bailey (WVa) is only 5'10" but the dude is a Vacuum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by datruth55 View Post
    Not seeing it with Justin Hunter ck. You've turned me on to Wilson though...good looking prospect. Still don't understand why there's no love for Quinton Patton. I also like Keenan Allen, Terrance Williams (if he runs well at the combine he's going to shoot up boards), DeAndre Hopkins and Stedman Bailey. I've got more games to watch though.
    Quinton Patton went off for 21 receptions, 233 yards and 4 TDs against Texas A&M...and when he wasn't catching the ball he was drawing pass interference penalties. They had no answer for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by datruth55 View Post

    Quinton Patton went off for 21 receptions, 233 yards and 4 TDs against Texas A&M...and when he wasn't catching the ball he was drawing pass interference penalties. They had no answer for him.
    wow I need to check that guy out
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    My preference of the 3 mentioned would be:
    1) Keenan Allen - Big physical receiver that catches well with his hands and at it's highest point. He is quick, runs good routes and is tough to bring down. He'll be a big help on 3rd down conversions and in the redzone
    2) Justin Hunter - Don't know much about him other than watching his highlights on youtube but looks like a true number 1 WR
    3) Someone other than Robert Woods - Woods tends to wait for the ball to come to him... he catches with his body which will not translate well to the NFL. I feel another USC WR bust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by datruth55 View Post
    Quinton Patton went off for 21 receptions, 233 yards and 4 TDs against Texas A&M...and when he wasn't catching the ball he was drawing pass interference penalties. They had no answer for him.
    Between that and his roasting of Terry Hawthorne, that ought to have some folks wagging their tongues.

    I admit I've only seen the Illinois game for him, and it left you needing to see more before you could make an evaluation either way.
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