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Thread: First Presidential Debate thoughts and discussion

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    So many logical fallacies, it made my head spin.
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    Neil deGrasse Tyson had a great tweet:

    Cutting PBS support (0.012% of budget) to help balance the Federal budget is like deleting text files to make room on your 500Gig hard drive
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkapePhin View Post
    Neil deGrasse Tyson had a great tweet:

    Cutting PBS support (0.012% of budget) to help balance the Federal budget is like deleting text files to make room on your 500Gig hard drive
    Yeah when Romney mentioned cutting PBS, I thought to myself, "Really? One of the few details you provide is one of the most insignificant costs imaginable?"
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    That was his one nugget to the hard right while pivoting so far to the middle.
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    A lot of crowing today by conservatives. What that says to me more than anything is where they thought the state of the election was before last night. Reminds me of how I felt in 2004, actually. Unfortunately for them these debates don't really change things very much, as Nate Silver explains:

    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Silver
    A bit of caution, however, about the predictive power of those polls showing Mr. Romney having clearly won the debate on Wednesday. As I mentioned after the debate, I had not come across a study on the relationship between instant-reaction debate polls and the eventual effect on the horse race polls. So I decided to do a quick one myself.
    Over all, the relationship between the winner of the instant-reaction poll and the change in head-to-head polls is positive, although not statistically significant.

    But for what it’s worth, the historical data would project a gain of 2.2 percentage points for Mr. Romney in the head-to-head polls by this time next week.
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    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...instant-polls/
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    I wouldn't put too much stock into this first one anyways. Poor planning by team Obama on this debate allowed Romney to come out looking good. I don't see that happening a second time. Plus, now they have an idea of how Romney is approaching this thing. If Romney "wins" this next one too, then I'd say it's time to start worrying if you're on team Obama. But not really worrying too much. The electoral map is still looking pretty good for Obama...

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    Did Obama totally avoid Bain Capital? I read that he did. Interesting.





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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWalrus View Post
    A lot of crowing today by conservatives. What that says to me more than anything is where they thought the state of the election was before last night. Reminds me of how I felt in 2004, actually. Unfortunately for them these debates don't really change things very much, as Nate Silver explains:

    Read more here:

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...instant-polls/
    Its a achievement for Romney because his campaign was in free fall. The crowing and what not is fairly irrelevant. But there were reports of donors pulling away from Romney to focus on Congressional candidates, and quite a few of those candidates had started making their own campaign ads centered on 4 more years of Obama. While those might be indirect, the money aspect is not.

    For weeks now, Romney has said his campaign will "reboot". And at every announced time they've faltered. Convention, after foreign affairs criticism, and other screw ups. Before this debate they said it will start another reboot. This time it worked. Obama had his boot on Romney's throat and let Romney stand up and walk away.

    In the grand scheme of things, this doesnt matter. It reminds me of the '04 election as well, where Kerry came out swinging in his first debate. This election will be decided by Ohio and Florida...and Obama has Ohio locked up. I hope this mistake has bruises Obama's ego a bit, because it should. For all intents and purposes, he could have ended this election last night. He didnt, so he should be riled up for the second one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolphins9954 View Post
    Did Obama totally avoid Bain Capital? I read that he did. Interesting.
    He brought up outsourcing but never once mentioned Bain.
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