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Thread: Joe Philbin's Game Management

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    Quote Originally Posted by royalshank View Post
    I have to disagree with much of this negativity toward Philbin's game management. The only call I didn't like was the 53 yd FG attempt - not in that situation. But the two other calls that went/are being heavily criticized from the past 2 weeks were the pass play in the AZ game w 2:58 remaining and the pass play to Clay today. Neither call bothered me. The execution bothered me. In the AZ game there was obviously a blown assignment that allowed the LB to jump on Tannehill before he stepped away from center. In fact, had that been a running play the LB might have tackled RT before he got to hand the ball off. I hated the outcome of that play - but not the call. Today, the pass to Clay was a good call. It was safe, high % and gave us a chance to get 9 yards. A running play (which Morono would have called) would have likely gained yard and taken the clock down - yes. The pass play to Clay SHOULD have accomplished the same thing - but the idiot ran out of bounds. That's not game management - that's "head up rear-end" syndrome by a player - we'll see if he ever does that again (Clay). Had he stayed in bounds, no one would be groaning about the calls. Perhaps I'm over-analyzing this because our game management was attrocious under Morono. I don't see Philbin using time outs just to "collect his thoughts" as his predecessor did. In fact, we are going into the end of halves and games with 2 or 3 TOs left. The last regime would burn them all in the first quarter. I like that Philbin is being aggressive and I also like the calls he's choosing to challenge - the refs got both wrong today - the fumble turned no fumble and the guy's heel AND hand hit the paint when he touched the punted ball. Didn't like the 53YD FG try - but overall we are far less predictable than we've been in a long time, which, given the lack of talent we have, I think is a good thing.
    Good post even though we disagree. More should take up your example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayden Fox View Post
    Joe Philbin has had awful game management in the last three weeks. Passing when they should be running, kicking when they should be punting. It is obvious he has a long way to before he is considered a positive factor in us winning games. He is no limited to no feel for the ebb and flow of the game.

    Player have to execute, but he needs to do his job with the headset on.

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    At what point does the team not being able to finish fall at his feet? What kind of culture has he created so that are so mentally weak?
    Looks like Dlockz officially has a challenger for Negative Nancy award this year. Dlockz you better step your game up if you want to lock it up again this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayden Fox View Post
    Run the ball. Run the clock. Use one of your best players to attempt to pin them. Give the Bengals with the ball with a minute left or so with no timeouts.

    That is effective clock management.
    And if they got stopped on that 3rd down play by running the ball you know damn sure people here would chastise Philbin and Sherman for not electing to pass to win the game with another first down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DolfanDuBbZ~ View Post
    Jeff Fisher wouldn't have.
    Dude has never won anything significant either



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    [QUOTE=Hayden Fox;1064450791]I know because he let his team pee on the field or something after a playoff gam


    and it was the day before the game. just for the record.

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    Hey,

    do you think the green bay packers miss philbin?

    i do
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVDolphan View Post
    Looks like Dlockz officially has a challenger for Negative Nancy award this year. Dlockz you better step your game up if you want to lock it up again this time.
    The places were hopefully heading, these types of post will begin to fall to the waste side.
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    Philbin does have some game management issues. But this team is much better prepared for game day than when Sparano was coach. They execute much better and just look like a better team fundamentally. It seems to me that right now Philbin is an Andy Reid. The team is prepared to play come game day, but the in game situation decision making and clock management leave a lot to be desired.

    I have faith that he will learn though. He is a first time head coach and is, by all accounts, a very bright man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVDolphan View Post
    Looks like Dlockz officially has a challenger for Negative Nancy award this year. Dlockz you better step your game up if you want to lock it up again this time.
    I do not think the post was negative at all. I have stated where I feel Joe is as a coach at this point. A lot of good and some bad.

    BTW, aren't you the one that wanted Matt Moore to start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by finfan54 View Post
    just glad we dont have brian billick. lol
    Didn't you want Pete Carmichael?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayden Fox View Post
    I do not think the post was negative at all. I have stated where I feel Joe is as a coach at this point. A lot of good and some bad.

    BTW, aren't you the one that wanted Matt Moore to start?

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    Didn't you want Pete Carmichael?
    yes, until he wasnt in the running. Then came philbin. you know i wanted philbin hayden.

    For those who claim game management issues. I think those are not all on Philbin because it is such an automated offense where Sherman runs it and coyle runs the D. I think the offense and defense caused cincy to call timeout two times in each half which caused them to have none later on when needed most.

    I thought that was beautiful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayden Fox View Post
    Run the ball and punt it. They would have had 40 seconds fewer than they did. It was about field position and the defense at that point...not closing it out.

    Also, the staff has some responsibility in terms of Clay's mental block. A) they should drill in him he needs to stay in bounds B) why is Clay getting the call?

    Sorry, Joe Philbin has struggled on game day folks.




    Of course, those flaming will not read all the posts, but I have praised Philbin to no end on his preparation Monday through Saturday. As rookie HC he is struggling on Sunday sometimes. Not sure how that is up for debate outside the fact people do not want to acknowledge the HC has some developing to do.
    This post as well as the original one is stupid. Any NFL kicker should be trusted to make a 53 yard FG, if not then he shouldn't be in the damn league. Secondly, you want philbin to run the ball 3 straight downs and then trust his defense to stop them. The same damn defense that gave up two game winning scores late the past two weeks? We don't have Sporano or Wadnstadt here anymore sir. Philbin is doing a great job. The only criticism i have is not calling a timeout agianst the cardinals on that game tying drive when it was obvious the defense was getting tired. Other than that, he's been fine.
    Of course, those flaming will not read all the posts, but I have praised Philbin to no end on his preparation Monday through Saturday. As rookie HC he is struggling on Sunday sometimes. Not sure how that is up for debate outside the fact people do not want to acknowledge the HC has some developing to do.[/QUOTE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by finfan54 View Post
    yes, until he wasnt in the running. Then came philbin. you know i wanted philbin hayden.

    For those who claim game management issues. I think those are not all on Philbin because it is such an automated offense where Sherman runs it and coyle runs the D. I think the offense and defense caused cincy to call timeout two times in each half which caused them to have none later on when needed most.

    I thought that was beautiful.
    Joe and his staff have done some great things this year. I have gone out of my way to list them within this post. Whether someone cares to actually read them is not on me. My issues today was the FG attempt and final offensive possession. We also had some issues in the NYJ and Arizona game in terms of play selection and deciding when to attempt a FG.
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