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Thread: Trade for Vontae Davis Looking Like a Bust More and More for the Colts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    You mean the guy who drafted him in the first round? That Jeff Ireland?
    When most GMs take a risk on a guy who has the talent to be a world pro and lose, they are out a 1st round pick.

    Miami lost 14-15 spots in the draft. That ain't bad. Maybe it's because I've been a poker player for so long but I see the value here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metalman32060 View Post
    Not everyone, I and quite a few others thought it was a good trade from the get go
    Well thats not what you said when it happened. In fact you didnt say anything. So dont say you stood up for the trade when you didnt. Anyways, while everyone wants to say now that they were all for the trade, go read the major threads regading the trade at the time it happened - alomost nobody was for the trade. Go look it up. I swear some people's memories are worse than a politician's around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    You mean the guy who drafted him in the first round? That Jeff Ireland?
    talent wise, Vontae was worth the risk. A big issue people had with Ireland and Parcells drafts were they were conservative picks. The early return on Vontae wasn't bad, but much like many players before him, he felt his talent was enough to get by in the NFL. Look at Vontae's tangibles, if he put the effort in he'd be a top 5 CB, maybe even the best in the league. So far, he hasn't had that drive to get better.

    Besides, most were calling for us to draft Darius Butler that year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChambersWI View Post
    talent wise, Vontae was worth the risk. A big issue people had with Ireland and Parcells drafts were they were conservative picks. The early return on Vontae wasn't bad, but much like many players before him, he felt his talent was enough to get by in the NFL. Look at Vontae's tangibles, if he put the effort in he'd be a top 5 CB, maybe even the best in the league. So far, he hasn't had that drive to get better.

    Besides, most were calling for us to draft Darius Butler that year.
    Yep I agree with the Vontae pick too. He was top 10 talent that fell to pick #25 because of attitude and work ethic. It was worth the risk of getting a top CB at #25, and it was hardly a conservative pick. Vontae couldn't dedicate himself like he was expected to, and we moved on. Its happenes all the time in the NFL.
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    I am one to say I was happy he was gone, we lost a starting CB but he was a bum. Smith is now shining and although Marshall is struggling I feel like we are better, plus we got a 2nd rd pick! We can draft his replacement as this draft class has a few good CBs. I am happy that cancer is off the team.
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    I have no problem with getting rid of Davis, i buried the guy in many posts. But am not going to give the guy who spent a first rd pick on him, credit for getting less for him now.
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    ireland still drafted him with a 1st, getting a mid to high 2nd for him... how is that winning?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notso View Post
    ireland still drafted him with a 1st, getting a mid to high 2nd for him... how is that winning?
    Well, he helped us win some games over 3 years. Winning isn't free. You have to pay something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notso View Post
    ireland still drafted him with a 1st, getting a mid to high 2nd for him... how is that winning?
    A mid to high 2nd for him... a year before his contract is up.


    I was pretty conflicted about the trade (because even though Vontae wasn't great, he had the physical tools and I thought he'd improve). Not too upset about it now though.
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    Re: Trade for Vontae Davis Looking Like a Bust More and More for the Colts

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy685 View Post
    When most GMs take a risk on a guy who has the talent to be a world pro and lose, they are out a 1st round pick.

    Miami lost 14-15 spots in the draft. That ain't bad. Maybe it's because I've been a poker player for so long but I see the value here.
    You see value in trading a 1st round pick for a 2nd several years later? I don't. I will give him credit for cutting his losses though.

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