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View Poll Results: What Is Mark buttfumble's Present Market Value?

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  • 1st Round Pick or more - acquired to be preemptive starter on some other teams (name teams)

    2 1.63%
  • 2nd Round Pick - Disappointing but has shown enough

    4 3.25%
  • 3rd Round Pick - Disappointing but maybe salvageable

    8 6.50%
  • 4th Round Pick - What the hell, you never know, right?

    19 15.45%
  • 5th Round Pick - He'd make a potentially reliable back-up

    38 30.89%
  • 6th - 7th Round Pick - Well, he's better than Painter who's still got a job, right?

    23 18.70%
  • Worthless: Too far gone to justify the time to fix

    29 23.58%
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    What's Mark buttfumble's Present Market Value?

    His last 4 games he's been 1-3, with about a 45% completion record (worst since the Ravens starting QB in '99 over 4 straight games), and has the worst first 5 game completion percentage since the great JaMarcus Russell. Given that he's also undeniably had some good games and some competent ones where essentially he stayed out of his offense's way, the question arises:

    How much market value can the jets command for this former 5th pick in the here & now?

    1st Round Pick or more - acquired to be preemptive starter on some other teams (name teams)


    2nd Round Pick - Disappointing but has shown enough to compete for starter job elsewhere (name teams)


    3rd Round Pick - Disappointing but maybe salvageable for spot duty and downroad through patience and better coaching


    4th Round Pick - What the hell, you never know, right?


    5th Round Pick - He'd make a potentially reliable back-up if he can get his head screwed on straight!


    6th - 7th Round Pick - Well, he's better than Curtis Painter who's still got a job, right?


    Worthless: Between sensitive temperment, sub-standard skill set and poor development he's too far gone to justify the time to correct
    Last edited by Vaark; 10-10-2012 at 07:59 PM. Reason: change Ponder to correct "Painter"
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    Ponders better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry_Bagpipe View Post
    Ponders better
    oh ****, i meant "curtis painter".... brainfart.. MODs please change, TIA




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    Re: What's Mark buttfumble's Present Market Value?

    I wondered about the disrespect for Ponder.

    I would say 2 if he got out of new york with less media attention and competent coaching be could do ok. However I wouldnt give more than a 3 for him, damaged goods.
    Im selling a club level ticket to the Dolphins v Raiders in London - will sell it for below face value. PM me if your interested.
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    Lets see what previous Qb's have gone for.

    Kevin Kolb 2nd rounder + Rogers Cromartie
    Matt Schaub 2x 2nd rounders
    Carson Palmer 1st plus conditional 2nd.
    Dante Cullpepper 2nd
    Jason Campbell 4th
    Matt Cassell 2nd
    Obviously the price for Palmer was sheer lunacy that only the Raiders would be stupid enough to do.
    Schaub, Cassell and Kolb were relatively unproven backups.
    Culpepper and Campbell were coming off bad injuries.

    Based on that and despite our misgivings towards buttfumble you think he would at least command a 2nd rounder.
    Like it or not he was a 4 year starter and had taken his team to the playoffs.
    He is also 25 so only one year older than Tannehill.

    Possible targets?
    LA expansion franchise(if it happens soon)
    KC- though I doubt they will want to invest in another backup.
    Seattle- If Wilson and Flynn ultimately fail. In light of
    Oakland

    ---------- Post added at 06:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:37 PM ----------

    I also believe that buttfumble needs to get out of NY as soon as possible and find himself a smaller market team.
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    I said 4th, but a team could probably be strong-armed into a 3rd, and maybe even a 2nd if desperate enough. QB values are much higher than other positions, so despite a subpar performance in his career so far, I think some team would look at his youth and a few of the times he has flashed and figure with better coaching, maybe they can help him follow Alex Smith's career trajectory. I don't see a team that needs a QB and has that staff in place though. Seattle might be the most likely landing spot, considering the Pete Carrol connection...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trojanma View Post
    Lets see what previous Qb's have gone for.

    Kevin Kolb 2nd rounder + Rogers Cromartie
    Matt Schaub 2x 2nd rounders
    Carson Palmer 1st plus conditional 2nd.
    Dante Cullpepper 2nd
    Jason Campbell 4th
    Matt Cassell 2nd
    Obviously the price for Palmer was sheer lunacy that only the Raiders would be stupid enough to do.
    Schaub, Cassell and Kolb were relatively unproven backups.
    Culpepper and Campbell were coming off bad injuries.

    Based on that and despite our misgivings towards buttfumble you think he would at least command a 2nd rounder.
    Like it or not he was a 4 year starter and had taken his team to the playoffs.
    He is also 25 so only one year older than Tannehill.

    Possible targets?
    LA expansion franchise(if it happens soon)
    KC- though I doubt they will want to invest in another backup.
    Seattle- If Wilson and Flynn ultimately fail. In light of
    Oakland

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    I also believe that buttfumble needs to get out of NY as soon as possible and find himself a smaller market team.
    this. After seeing my team waste a pick on aj feely I could never see giving more than a 5th rounder for buttfumble. He has regressed and is near the bottom of every major statistic this season. The only thing good he has going is that he is young and coachable.
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    This thread reminds me of that Taco Bell commercial.

    "59, 79, 99."

    $0.59

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    $0.99

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    kanye pls change ponder to Curtis Painter in the choices TIA
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    Why would any team want buttfumble unless they are sure that the Jets have totally screwed up his coaching or have him in the wrong system? It would be different if he had periods of consistent success but he has been bad poor more often than good. Perhaps a reclamation project like Carson Palmer or an injury risk like Brees. You don't bring in buttfumble planning for him to compete for a starting job, therefore you don't give up more than a 5th round pick.

    There is not a single starter in the NFL who was previously a 4 year failure on another team.
    Angry Deniers. A bunch of agenda-driven whiny clowns whose sole mission is to deny anything good that Tannehill has done and deny anything bad that the "gods of quarterbacks" have done.
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