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Thread: Overrated & Underrated Dolphins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southbeach 2 View Post
    Here's a list of 10 LT's playing better than Long, in no particular order. Clady from Denver, Brown from Houston, Staley from SF, Solder from NE, Thomas from Cleve, Ferguson from the Jets, Whitworth from Cinci, Kalil from Minny, Roos from Tenn, And Williams from Wash.
    Don't think Kalil should be on that list. He got his lunch money taken yesterday against the Bucs. Haven't watched Tennessee or Washington play this year. Didn't Whitworth give up 1.5 sacks to Misi when we played them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFin View Post
    Anyone who thinks Tannehill is overrated simply either hasn't been closely watching, or doesn't understand what they are looking at....period!

    Despite a limited number of starts in college, this kid gets better and better every week, showing a poise and a command of the game you rarely see this early in a rookie QB.

    He hasn't thrown an interception in the last two games and his QB rating in those games is over a 100 combined.

    In fact, if you take away his first game where we had 7 minutes of JJ Watt madness, he has a positive touchdown to interception ratio, not to mention some dropped touchdown passes.
    Hard to believe anyone has seen Tannehill as anything less than very impressive so far this year. He has had to deal with 18 drops, which is a lot. I have to think some of that is getting in sync with his WR's, and them adjusting to how quickly the ball gets to them.

    I have the Seattle and SF games circled to watch how he does vs VG D's. I also look forward to seeing how well he does this Sunday. He was bad vs the Jets in the first game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by datruth55 View Post
    Don't think Kalil should be on that list. He got his lunch money taken yesterday against the Bucs. Haven't watched Tennessee or Washington play this year. Didn't Whitworth give up 1.5 sacks to Misi when we played them?
    I did not watch last night's game, and he is a rookie who should be a little inconsistent. I watched Whitworth, when we played, and was VERY impressed. I don't believe he gave up any pressure, let alone a sack.
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    I agree with most of southsides list, although I wouldnt put Ferguson on it. I would say this year include Russel Okung and Jordan Gross.
    Quote Originally Posted by datruth55 View Post
    Hold on though, if you're going to say he's not top 10 you got to name names. Who at LT is better than Jake Long?

    I can say Joe Thomas, Ryan Clady, Duane Brown and Joe Staley but after that it gets a little iffy so if you have 10 guys in front of Jake Long I'd like to hear it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by datruth55 View Post
    Don't think Kalil should be on that list. He got his lunch money taken yesterday against the Bucs. Haven't watched Tennessee or Washington play this year. Didn't Whitworth give up 1.5 sacks to Misi when we played them?
    Penn could be on the list though
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    Quote Originally Posted by BG12DM13CP10 View Post
    Tannehill = Overated
    There are times when fans on this board may overrate him, only because they are excited at finally having a QB that looks to be the answer. Those that do overrate him in the long run could be exactly on the money.

    Outside of this board, he's still very much underrated and in the shadow of Luck, RGIII and Russell Wilson despite all 3 of those QB's having better options at the skill positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolpns13 View Post
    I'm not sure but even top ten LT's dont have multiple holding calls and give up more than 1 sack per game. Last game Jake gave up 2 sacks and had 2 holding calls. It seems every game Jake gets penalized 2 or 3 times and gives up a sack.
    I didn't really pay attention to sacks and penalties against the Rams, well except that one BS holding call that Steratore and that bummy ref crew called on Jake. I thought Jake was brilliant against the Rams, especially as the game moved on. The Rams clearly didn't fear the Fins passing game, stopped the running game and were barreling down on the OLine and Tannehill and Jake was winning all of his battles and several times when the DE would make a move, Jake would counter to ensure Tannehill didn't get touched. I put a focus on him during the game and I liked what I saw. I'm expecting him to have a great 2nd half of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by datruth55 View Post
    Don't think Kalil should be on that list. He got his lunch money taken yesterday against the Bucs. Haven't watched Tennessee or Washington play this year. Didn't Whitworth give up 1.5 sacks to Misi when we played them?
    i thought misi got his 1.5 sacks against the god awful cardinals o line , but imo long is better than any of washington and titans tackles
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    Underrated: Bess, Fasano, and dare I say... Ireland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolpns13 View Post
    I agree with most of southsides list, although I wouldnt put Ferguson on it. I would say this year include Russel Okung and Jordan Gross.

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    Penn could be on the list though
    I think we can debate who is on my list, and I have not seen enough of any of their play to dispute adding or subtracting a few. However, the bottom line is that Big Jake is not there, which is very disappointing. I don't think anyone would have him in the top 12 or more for his play so far this year.

    I know a fan in Cleve, and we used to debate who is #1 vs #2. Now, it's tuff to put Long in the top half, based on this year's play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dolpns13 View Post
    I'm not sure but even top ten LT's dont have multiple holding calls and give up more than 1 sack per game. Last game Jake gave up 2 sacks and had 2 holding calls. It seems every game Jake gets penalized 2 or 3 times and gives up a sack.
    OK, now I am cheating in looking this up. Last game, Long gave up 0 sacks, 0 hits, and 1 hurry. He was called for 2 penalties, with 1 accepted.

    For the YEAR, he has given up 2 sack, 2 hits, and 3 hurries, and was called for 4 penalties, with 2 accepted.

    Jake has not been his dominating self, so far, and has struggled in run blocking but, he deserves NOT to be ripped by fiction.
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