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    281-257 Obama. Could go higher but I gave Romney Colorado and Virginia. I am going over the last relevant poll numbers (thanks to absentee and early votes), and it is looking good for Obama.
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    Re: 5 days out, post your predictions here

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    The auto bailouts have all but given Obama Wisconsin, Michigan, and most likely Ohio. All the polls reflect this. Why would you give them to Romney, other than sheer hope...?
    The auto industry is huge, no doubt. However, GM is really the only one still on board with Obama. Ford didn't take the money and Fiat bought Chrysler. That was four years ago too, what have you done for me lately? People forget quickly when they are hurting today. Ask GHW Bush about that. Aside from that, all of the polls do not show Obama leading there...Rasmussen and a few others have Romney very competitive or ahead in the Midwest toss-up states. Dems will not show up at the polls on election day anywhere near the way they did in 2008. The right will show up in droves! That is why I predict a strong Romney victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    The auto industry is huge, no doubt. However, GM is really the only one still on board with Obama. Ford didn't take the money and Fiat bought Chrysler. That was four years ago too, what have you done for me lately? People forget quickly when they are hurting today. Ask GHW Bush about that. Aside from that, all of the polls do not show Obama leading there...Rasmussen and a few others have Romney very competitive or ahead in the Midwest toss-up states. Dems will not show up at the polls on election day anywhere near the way they did in 2008. The right will show up in droves! That is why I predict a strong Romney victory.

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    This isn't about how the companies themselves feel about it. This is about how the voters feel. And their jobs were saved when Obama bailed out GM. That is still resounding in those states, at least according to most polls. I disagree with your claim that Dems won't show up at the polls, but I do understand where you're coming from now...

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    Re: 5 days out, post your predictions here

    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    This isn't about how the companies themselves feel about it. This is about how the voters feel. And their jobs were saved when Obama bailed out GM. That is still resounding in those states, at least according to most polls. I disagree with your claim that Dems won't show up at the polls, but I do understand where you're coming from now...
    Dems will show up but not like they did in 2008. However, Republicans are more motivated than they have been since Carter. I think that the populous is really split about 50/50 in a lot of states and the polls show that. However, I truly believe that the Blues will have less of a turnout than the Reds and it will swing some states toward Romney. People still like and support Obama, why I have no idea, but they are not excited about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    This isn't about how the companies themselves feel about it. This is about how the voters feel. And their jobs were saved when Obama bailed out GM. That is still resounding in those states, at least according to most polls. I disagree with your claim that Dems won't show up at the polls, but I do understand where you're coming from now...
    The bailout didn't just save GM, it saved everyone that did business with GM. I can only imagine how many suppliers and other comPanies rely on GM. That's a lot of saved jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    Dems will show up but not like they did in 2008. However, Republicans are more motivated than they have been since Carter. I think that the populous is really split about 50/50 in a lot of states and the polls show that. However, I truly believe that the Blues will have less of a turnout than the Reds and it will swing some states toward Romney. People still like and support Obama, why I have no idea, but they are not excited about him.

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    These polls take into consideration likely voters, so that shouldn't make a difference. I think most support for Obama is more of a no-confidence in Romney sort of thing. We know what we're going to get with Obama, and despite the huffing-and-puffing from people like PhinPhreak, most people have not had much of a change in their lives. Unemployment is high among unskilled workers, but relatively low for those with a degree. That means most everyone posting on this forum probably has very little, if any, effect in their lives from the Bush-Obama transition. Romney is an unknown, and not only that, someone that comes off as untrustworthy. If you ask the guy the same question twice, you get three different answers...
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    Re: 5 days out, post your predictions here

    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    These polls take into consideration likely voters, so that shouldn't make a difference. I think most support for Obama is more of a no-confidence in Romney sort of thing. We know what we're going to get with Obama, and despite the huffing-and-puffing from people like PhinPhreak, most people have not had much of a change in their lives. Unemployment is high among unskilled workers, but relatively low for those with a degree. That means most everyone posting on this forum probably has very little, if any, effect in their lives from the Bush-Obama transition. Romney is an unknown, and not only that, someone that comes off as untrustworthy. If you ask the guy the same question twice, you get three different answers...
    Unfortunately, you are correct there. I wholeheartedly disagree with must everything that Obama stands for but he isn't THAT much different from GWB and neither is Romney. IMO, we need to forget about social issues for a few decades and focus on the economy and foreign policy or we won't have any social issues to concern ourselves with. The US needs a true fiscally conservative government that can cut away all of the crap, the taxes, the debt, and the handouts so that we can all prosper. Obama is a socialist, Bush and Romney are RINOs and borderline socialists. All three of them are horrific liars. Romney was my least favorite choice among the Republican nominees but he is the best I have available right now. Truthfully, tell me that Obama would have a prayer against a stud Republican? His record sucks and he is only in the race because Romney sucks too...and McCain was worse. Lord help us all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddy View Post
    Unfortunately, you are correct there. I wholeheartedly disagree with must everything that Obama stands for but he isn't THAT much different from GWB and neither is Romney. IMO, we need to forget about social issues for a few decades and focus on the economy and foreign policy or we won't have any social issues to concern ourselves with. The US needs a true fiscally conservative government that can cut away all of the crap, the taxes, the debt, and the handouts so that we can all prosper. Obama is a socialist, Bush and Romney are RINOs and borderline socialists. All three of them are horrific liars. Romney was my least favorite choice among the Republican nominees but he is the best I have available right now. Truthfully, tell me that Obama would have a prayer against a stud Republican? His record sucks and he is only in the race because Romney sucks too...and McCain was worse. Lord help us all!

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    If Hunstman got the nomination, he'd probably have this thing wrapped up already...
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    Re: 5 days out, post your predictions here

    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    If Hunstman got the nomination, he'd probably have this thing wrapped up already...
    You are probably right. Cain was my guy but he couldn't keep his jock under control. I liked Huntsman a lot but for whatever reason, he never had a prayer. Romney really screwed up IMO by not embracing Ron Paul. Yeah, he's a little nutty but he owns the independents.

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    Let me take a stab at this.

    The Economy Positives.

    Employers reported adding 171,000 jobs in October, beating both analysts’ expectations (125,000 jobs added) and September’s job creation (a revised 148,000). The most jobs added in 8mths.

    The unemployment rate rose to 7.9 percent, up from 7.8 percent, but the reason behind the uptick also points to an improved job market. [B]Some 578,000 more Americans counted themselves as part of the labor force. Because of consumer confidence.

    Private employment rose by even more than the overall job growth, up 184,000, as cuts by the U.S. Postal Service and state governments acted as a drag.

    Job creation was strongest among retailers, who added 36,000 jobs; health care, which added 32,500 jobs; and leisure and hospitality employers, who added 28,000 positions. The construction industry reported a gain of 17,000 jobs, a welcome improvement that reflects a rebound in the housing industry.

    Created 5.4 million new jobs. That's 32 Straight Months Of Private Sector Job Growth!

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    --The American auto industry is back on top! GM #1 car seller in the world. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades.

    --We’re less dependent on foreign oil than at any time in the past 20 years.
    --The Dow is now at 14,000

    --Unemployment is down in 44 states.

    --You can now buy big clunky cars that does 25-38 MPG. Released new fuel efficiency standards in 2011 that will nearly double the fuel economy for cars and trucks by 2025.

    --After five presidents over a century failed to create universal health insurance, signed the Affordable Care Act (2010). It will cover 32 million uninsured Americans beginning in 2014.

    -- Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act (2010) to re-regulate the financial sector after its practices caused the Great Recession. The new law tightens capital requirements on large banks and other financial institutions, requires derivatives to be sold on clearinghouses and exchanges, mandates that large banks provide “living wills” to avoid chaotic bankruptcies, limits their ability to trade with customers’ money for their own profit, and creates the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (now headed by Richard Cordray) to crack down on abusive lending products and companies.

    --In 2011, ordered special forces raid of secret compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan, in which the terrorist leader was killed and a trove of al-Qaeda documents was discovered.

    --In the midst of financial crisis, approved controversial Treasury Department plan to lure private capital into the country’s largest banks via “stress tests” of their balance sheets and a public-private fund to buy their “toxic” assets. Got banks back on their feet at essentially zero cost to the government.

    --As part of the 2010 health care reform bill, signed measure ending the wasteful decades-old practice of subsidizing banks to provide college loans. Starting July 2010 all students began getting their federal student loans directly from the federal government. Treasury will save $67 billion over ten years, $36 billion of which will go to expanding Pell Grants to lower-income students.

    -- With so many soldiers coming home from Iraq and Iran with serious physical and mental health problems, yet facing long waits for services, increased 2010 Department of Veterans Affairs budget by 16 percent and 2011 budget by 10 percent. Also signed new GI bill offering $78 billion in tuition assistance over a decade, and provided multiple tax credits to encourage businesses to hire veterans.

    -- New EPA restrictions on mercury and toxic pollution, issued in December 2011, likely to lead to the closing of between sixty-eight and 231 of the nation’s oldest and dirtiest coal-fired power plants. Estimated cost to utilities: at least $11 billion by 2016. Estimated health benefits: $59 billion to $140 billion.

    --Signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act (2009), which prohibits credit card companies from raising rates without advance notification, mandates a grace period on interest rate increases, and strictly limits overdraft and other fees.

    --- In 2011, signed FDA Food Safety Modernization Act, which boosts the Food and Drug Administration’s budget by $1.4 billion and expands its regulatory responsibilities to include increasing number of food inspections, issuing direct food recalls, and reviewing the current food safety practices of countries importing products into America.

    -- Issued executive order in 2009 requiring all federal agencies to make plans to soften their environmental impacts by 2020. Goals include 30 percent reduction in fleet gasoline use, 26 percent boost in water efficiency, and sustainability requirements for 95 percent of all federal contracts. Because federal government is the country’s single biggest purchaser of goods and services, likely to have ripple effects throughout the economy for years to come.

    -- In coordination with Michelle Obama, signed Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act in 2010 mandating $4.5 billion spending boost and higher nutritional and health standards for school lunches. New rules based on the law, released in January, double the amount of fruits and vegetables and require only whole grains in food served to students.

    --Created Recovery.gov: Web site run by independent board of inspectors general looking for fraud and abuse in stimulus spending, provides public with detailed information on every contract funded by $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Thanks partly to this transparency, board has uncovered very little fraud, and Web site has become national model: “The stimulus has done more to promote transparency at almost all levels of government than any piece of legislation in recent memory,” reports Governing magazine.

    --Signed 2009 Children’s Health Insurance Authorization Act, which allows the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) to cover health care for 4 million more children, paid for by a tax increase on tobacco products.

    That's just the short list, there's hundreds more I can list. And almost 60 percent of people in this country haven't brought the marketing ploy by the conservatives to paint Obama as a socialist, marxist, muslim who sat at rev. white christian church for 20 years and his dad is a atheist, he's going to take our guns, and by the way, although he is the president he also hate this country, and so on and so forth.

    He has done things that have directly impacted millions of Americans, in which they are great-full, this is going to be a landslide win on Tuesday,,
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