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Thread: *** OFFICIAL Election Day Thread - Decision 2012 ***

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    Some House races that are interesting

    Bachmann held on. Barely
    Allen West has lost by .8%, but absentees and provisional ballots are still coming in. Automatic recount is .5%. Knowing West's personality, he is going to fight this to the max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPhinFan View Post
    The fact of the matter is the Republican party has a problem. The candidate that makes it through their primary is at a disadvantage in the national election. They have to go crazy right during the primary then move back to the center in the national. At that point the Democratic party has all kinds of ammunition to use against them.

    The next election four years from now will be interesting. Will the Democrats have to go crazy left during their primary and then move back to the center in the national? I guess it depends on who they put out there. As for the Republicans, they are just going to have to transform their party platform over the next 4 years so they stop disinfranchising the latino vote.
    The women vote didn't go their way either. They need to shut up with all the "legitimate rape" crap. They need to ease up on abortion, because that's going to continue to kill them with the way the demographics are shifting. They are also going to have to address equal pay in the workplace. These are all things that Liberals side with women on, and it shows in the polls...

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    Another random thought

    George Allen lost with his mucaca comment. Akin lost with his legitimate rape comment. Mourdock with his gods gift comment. All winnable seats, all lost because Republicans decided to run complete fools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbunglez View Post
    Marco Rubio in 2016?
    I would think at this point he's got to be the front runner for the Republicans. He did well during his speech at the National Convention.

    I'm a registered Republican that voted for Gary Johnson this time around. I like Rubio on the surface. I'll have to dive deeper in the new set of Republican hopefuls in couple of years.
    Insert pithy saying here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WadeCounty1231 View Post
    I think there is little doubt it will be Hillary in four years, though she will have to go through a primary of course.

    The problem in the Republican party is they are doing poorly with young voters, and young voters are showing up at the polls. Also the increasing minority demographic. Exit polls showed most people, Latino or not, agreed with a path to citizenship as well.

    The two lines that won Obama this election- Romney's self deportation line, and Romney's let Detroit fail line. Small issues like this in close states did huge disservice to the campaign.
    I am not so sure about that.
    Hillary would be 69 on the next election day the oldest president since Reagan.
    She has rebuilt her legacy of the loss to Obama with a very strong tenure as secretary of state.

    The Republicans will likely turn to some new generation a Rubio, Ryan something like that to rebrand themselves.

    It will all come down to how this next four years will go.
    If the economy bounces back then the Dems will likely win. If not then people may look for a change.
    The economy completely bouncing is not assured since outside forces such as a major EuroZone crisis could sabotage things for the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LouPhinFan View Post
    I would think at this point he's got to be the front runner for the Republicans. He did well during his speech at the National Convention.

    I'm a registered Republican that voted for Gary Johnson this time around. I like Rubio on the surface. I'll have to dive deeper in the new set of Republican hopefuls in couple of years.
    Barring some sort of massive Gaffe Rubio will certainly be on the ticket.
    The calculus is too obvious for the republicans. He would likely flip Florida right off the bat.

    He may be a little green for President(will be a little younger than Obama).

    Huntsman/Rubio would be a good ticket for the Republicans.
    Huntsman's foreign policy experience could offset Rubio's inexperience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trojanma View Post
    I am not so sure about that.
    Hillary would be 69 on the next election day the oldest president since Reagan.
    She has rebuilt her legacy of the loss to Obama with a very strong tenure as secretary of state.

    The Republicans will likely turn to some new generation a Rubio, Ryan something like that to rebrand themselves.

    It will all come down to how this next four years will go.
    If the economy bounces back then the Dems will likely win. If not then people may look for a change.
    The economy completely bouncing is not assured since outside forces such as a major EuroZone crisis could sabotage things for the US.

    The economy isn't going to bounce back any time soon. Working class people in the USA are going to get kicked in the teeth very, very hard in the coming years. Not because Obama got reelected, but for a lot of different reasons. Certainly, his war on coal and oil isn't helping with the fact that energy is becoming unaffordable, but it's too late for that now.

    Even with drastic and immediate change to try to fix some of the key problems that are causing the economic collapse, it'll be years before the nation recovers. Four years of gridlock won't help anyone but the banksters, labor unions, and big corporations.

    It is what it is.


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    I don't buy the Energy Armageddon argument anymore.
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    The share of energy production in the form of natural gas
    http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=4950

    The price of natural gas over the last 20 years
    http://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/rngwhhdM.htm


    Despite an explosion of use price has stayed stable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trojanma View Post
    I am not so sure about that.
    Hillary would be 69 on the next election day the oldest president since Reagan.
    She has rebuilt her legacy of the loss to Obama with a very strong tenure as secretary of state.

    The Republicans will likely turn to some new generation a Rubio, Ryan something like that to rebrand themselves.

    It will all come down to how this next four years will go.
    If the economy bounces back then the Dems will likely win. If not then people may look for a change.
    The economy completely bouncing is not assured since outside forces such as a major EuroZone crisis could sabotage things for the US.
    Ryan would be a risky decision. He's tea party and a lot of the northeastern states won't even look at him. I think he's got some good going for him, but he's way too right.

    Rubio (whom the little I know about him I like) and Christie are both probably gonna be top candidates.

    But as I mentioned. I'm not huge in politics. I know my fair share, but I'm ignorant in a lot of issues. I think the 3 top candidates for the GOP were all extremely flawed. I also think the whole campaign was built around getting Obama out of the White House rather than getting the best Republican in.
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