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    Quote Originally Posted by rcasellas64 View Post
    Would you have said the same about Payton Manning in his first year! Look at Payton's record and number of interceptions. Tannehill has no weapons to throw to. He is a gun slinger with no weapons.
    I really wish the comparison with Manning would not be made. Peyton had 28 INTs in his very first year but also 26TDs and threw for almost 4000 yards. To pull comparisons of any HOFer or potential HOFer with Tannehill is ridiculous. Just as declaring Tannehill a complete bust. With every Manning or Brady or Rodgers comparison I could pull a Sanchez or Leaf comparison.

    The notion of 'we have crap for receivers' does not hold either. We may not have bonifide downfield receivers but that our receivers can get open deep we have seen. If Bess is 30 yards downfield and he is overthrown for an INT it certainly is not on 'our receivers are too slow'. We certainly don't have the speed of a Marshal, Moss or Ocho to go down the field on a regular basis but it is not like our receivers are chicken ****.

    Instead of declaring Tannehill the next franchise QB or a complete bust we all should be wondering if he ever overcomes the 'rookie wall'. The rookie wall is a nice phrase to explain the adjustment opponents make based on film they can now watch. Taking away the strength of a rookie QB and pushing him into his weakness IS the rookie wall. Those coaches who can overcame these type of game plans with better play selections become great coaches. And those rookie QBs who can force their will and strength onto opposing Ds with success become franchise QBs.
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    The nfl is hard to win and that bills team couldn't wait to win this game...every point the fins scored they came back..no way the fins were gonna win this one ..on a good side note ..jeff ireland will get fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhinzN703 View Post
    So cut him after 10 games b/c he's a loser and will never at any point in his career improve. Oh if only that happened to other QBs in the league.

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    What about the offensive line giving him enough time to set for his throws? oh yea enough said. What about the wide receivers gaining separation down the field to stretch the defense i.e. Davone Bess on 9 routes? oh yea enough said. What about the running game thats supposed to run against the worst defense in the NFL to help a rookie with less than 30 career starts at QB? oh yea enough said. There is more than one moving part to a team.
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    Completely disagree, with what Tann has to work with he has done well. The run game has stalled and the oline is not performing as well as it should be. Plus the kids a rookie, henne sucked, tanne will be very good. He is no Marino, but he shows poise and when he makes a mistake he shakes it off and gets back to work. He is a leader and he will get his hands around the offense with the help of great coaching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phins_4_ever View Post
    I really wish the comparison with Manning would not be made. Peyton had 28 INTs in his very first year but also 26TDs and threw for almost 4000 yards. To pull comparisons of any HOFer or potential HOFer with Tannehill is ridiculous. Just as declaring Tannehill a complete bust. With every Manning or Brady or Rodgers comparison I could pull a Sanchez or Leaf comparison.

    The notion of 'we have crap for receivers' does not hold either. We may not have bonifide downfield receivers but that our receivers can get open deep we have seen. If Bess is 30 yards downfield and he is overthrown for an INT it certainly is not on 'our receivers are too slow'. We certainly don't have the speed of a Marshal, Moss or Ocho to go down the field on a regular basis but it is not like our receivers are chicken ****.

    Instead of declaring Tannehill the next franchise QB or a complete bust we all should be wondering if he ever overcomes the 'rookie wall'. The rookie wall is a nice phrase to explain the adjustment opponents make based on film they can now watch. Taking away the strength of a rookie QB and pushing him into his weakness IS the rookie wall. Those coaches who can overcame these type of game plans with better play selections become great coaches. And those rookie QBs who can force their will and strength onto opposing Ds with success become franchise QBs.
    For comparisons sake, you can most defiantly compare a rookie to a rookie's past. Thats all the comparison is. Its what Peyton did the next season that truly showed his growth. Oh yea he had Marshall Faulk, Marvin Harrison, Marcus Pollard to help get all those touchdowns.

    Review the play over again. Davone lost the ball in the air because Ryan made a check to him at the LOS. You can see Davone whip his head around looking for it. Thats what Ryan feels comfortable with is a WR whose top speed is 4.79 and stands a mere 5'10. He gains his separation in the slot and when split wide hes thrown slants and back shoulders. The Dolphins don't have crap WR, but the the certainly have NO DEEP THREAT. Just because they can run deep doesn't mean there a threat. Any reason why Hartline hasn't had a game like Arizona? Teams have taken that away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fisi View Post
    This was one of the the biggest knock on him coming out of the draft. He didn't win any big games in college so how do you expect him to win one in the NFL.

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    Tannehill is not a winner, folks!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by rcasellas64 View Post
    Would you have said the same about Payton Manning in his first year! Look at Payton's record and number of interceptions. Tannehill has no weapons to throw to. He is a gun slinger with no weapons.
    Manning threw 26 TDs his rookie season and Tannehill threw 6 so far. Your comparison is just not reasonable. You cannot choose record and ints while ignoring the vast difference in ability to score. The lack of weapons clearly holds Tanne back, but not that much. I agree that it is way too early to give up on the kid, but it is not too early to be concerned about his inability to convert TDs.
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    Tannehill is not a winner, folks!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 16phinsrfast View Post
    What about the offensive line giving him enough time to set for his throws? oh yea enough said. What about the wide receivers gaining separation down the field to stretch the defense i.e. Davone Bess on 9 routes? oh yea enough said. What about the running game thats supposed to run against the worst defense in the NFL to help a rookie with less than 30 career starts at QB? oh yea enough said. There is more than one moving part to a team.
    More protection would help, but there were plenty of throws he missed where he has the opportunity to step into the throw to complete it. His mechanics have regressed after the injury.
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    Tannehill is not a winner, folks!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Killerphinz32 View Post
    Completely disagree, with what Tann has to work with he has done well. The run game has stalled and the oline is not performing as well as it should be. Plus the kids a rookie, henne sucked, tanne will be very good. He is no Marino, but he shows poise and when he makes a mistake he shakes it off and gets back to work. He is a leader and he will get his hands around the offense with the help of great coaching.
    He has not shown poise and accuracy the last three games. It is insane to say this kid is going to be good. He might be, but he has to show he can do it. It is should be clear to everyone that Tanne. has more potential than Moore and Henne, but it is only potential at this moment.
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