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Thread: Rand Paul holds up NDAA bill over indefinite detention amendment

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    Rand Paul holds up NDAA bill over indefinite detention amendment

    Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul is holding up consideration of the fiscal 2013 defense authorization bill over an amendment he plans to offer that would require a jury trial for Americans detained in terrorism investigations.

    A Paul spokeswoman said the senator wants “an agreement in principle to get a vote” on the amendment, which would likely produce some fireworks on the floor.
    Paul’s demand for a vote comes as Senate Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich., and Arizona Sen. John McCain, the top Republican on the panel, are working behind the scenes to limit debate on the sprawling policy measure (S 3254) to ensure it receives floor time during the lame-duck session.

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    Text of amendment:

    A citizen of the United States who is captured or arrested in the United States and detained by the Armed Forces of the United States pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40) shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
    http://www.dailypaul.com/263271/rand...tion-amendment


    At least someone gives a damn about simple things like the rule of law. It's going to be real interesting to see this one play out. Too bad sex scandals are more important.





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    Quote Originally Posted by CedarPhin View Post
    I don't understand how you can hold a US citizen indefinitely without due process, it makes absolutely no sense at all.

    Foreigners, I can understand, and don't mind at all, but US citizens? That's straight up full-retard.

    Sex scandals sell.

    At the same time the Declaration of Independence says "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights." Too bad the founders didn't follow those words but nonetheless I'm a firm believer in them.
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    Since I got the Bill on my PC but don't want to read through some 700 pages right now maybe someone could give me the Title, Subtitle and Section.
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    Oh, i don't know.....someone widely held as one of our greatest Presidents suspended Habeus Corpas. And didn't another widely esteemed President create internment camps for people of Asian ancestry? Not enough people get pissed about things like this because like these two guys, it's being done in the interest of national security.

    Too bad.....when any one persons rights are trampled on, all of our rights suffer for it.


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    Heres my question: other than a military base shooting(or something similar to that), how can the military arrest and hold someone on American soil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spesh View Post
    Heres my question: other than a military base shooting(or something similar to that), how can the military arrest and hold someone on American soil?
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    Petition to stop the NDAA (Please read and sign!!!)

    http://www.randpacusa.com/ndaa_sign.aspx?pid=1120
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