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    Some Double Up Combos I'd Like to See

    Knowing that the Dolphins like to double-up on positions, I started thinking about dream scenarios to double up. How about this one.....

    1. Keenan Allen WR
    1. Tyler Eifert TE (trade up)

    Here's another that would intrigue me....

    1. Keenan Allen WR
    1. Cordarelle Patterson WR (trade up)

    Either scenario would vastly improve Miami's passing game, but I don't see Miami using two premium picks on wide receivers. Allen and Patterson would give the team two big wide out who are excellent after the catch. That's a good scenario for a WC offense.

    Here's a defensive dream double up....

    1. Bjoern Werner DE
    3. Tank Carradine DE

    Carradine's injury drops him out of 1st round consideration. This scenario would really help Miami's 4-3 defense. Right now we don't have the DE's that can rush the passer and play the run.

    How about solving the secondary issues with something like this...

    1. Dee Milliner CB
    2. Desmond Trufant CB

    Thoughts?
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    My idea for Miami in this particular draft was always to double up at the WR, DE, and CB positions. I believe Miami has 10 picks as it currently sits, which leaves 4 picks to address RB, TE, S, and OL.

    The combinations for doubling up that look good to me are virtually limitless depending on what prospects are available where, so there's really no point in trying to identify specifics on that end. I can double up early/early, early/late, early/mid, mid/mid, or mid/late depending on how the board falls.

    I just think the idea of doubling up at the DE, WR, and CB positions makes too much sense for Miami... and I think I can get a RB that will contribute at any point in the draft. I would just take a RB, TE, S, and OL at any point I choose where I feel like I'm getting the best value for the player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedSlimmJr View Post
    My idea for Miami in this particular draft was always to double up at the WR, DE, and CB positions. I believe Miami has 10 picks as it currently sits, which leaves 4 picks to address RB, TE, S, and OL.

    The combinations for doubling up that look good to me are virtually limitless depending on what prospects are available where, so there's really no point in trying to identify specifics on that end. I can double up early/early, early/late, early/mid, mid/mid, or mid/late depending on how the board falls.

    I just think the idea of doubling up at the DE, WR, and CB positions makes too much sense for Miami... and I think I can get a RB that will contribute at any point in the draft. I would just take a RB, TE, S, and OL at any point I choose where I feel like I'm getting the best value for the player.
    Considering we have Wake and Vernon (assuming we let Starks go and move Odrick inside), does it make sense to double up on DE? I would rather get one premier DE to go alongside Wake and have Vernon come in as a rotational end / run stopper.
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    2013 Dolphins LogoRadioactiveCam Wake 91Tannehill 17
    We've got 9 picks Slimm but doubling up makes sense at those positions.
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    My dream would be to triple up with Hunter/Patterson/Rogers lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirvmac View Post
    My dream would be to triple up with Hunter/Patterson/Rogers lol.
    There is just awesome talent there. I do wonder how low Rogers will drop due to character concerns, but he reminds me of Terrell Owens.
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    I would double up at DE purely because the draft is so deep at the position, though it doesn't hurt that Miami could use both a #2 and #3 DE on this roster.

    I would double up at WR because essentially the Dolphins only have two guys I'd want to keep on my ideal roster at that position. So this qualifies as a heavy need.

    I would double up at CB because the Dolphins only have one CB worth a damn and you need five. This is actually the biggest need on the roster, because of the Vontae Davis trade.

    But the Dolphins need more than you can really get in one off season because the bottom line is neither starting guard is ideal, Reggie Bush seems destined to leave, there's room for one more TE preferably a very good one, they don't have a backup swing tackle, they don't have a free safety and they don't have safety backups, and they don't have linebacker backups.

    Preferably I would keep Jake Long for $10 or $11 million a year, or sell him off for very good compensation (more than a 1st round pick). Randy Starks needs to be back, been saying that forever. I think you either re-sign Brian Hartline and trade Davone Bess, or you keep Davone Bess and let Brian Hartline walk. Tough call but it's harder to find a guy that works the outside like Brian Hartline than it is to find a guy that works the inside like Davone Bess, so if you can monetize Bess for a pick then that may be the way to go. Could just keep both I guess but that places more pressure on you to grab someone with high and immediate impact a la Vincent Jackson, because otherwise you'll not have really made immediate change to a unit that clearly needs immediate change. Fasano is a #2 tight end that may cost a little more than that, so you can let him walk or not but either way another acquisition there is necessary. Tough to let Reggie Bush walk since he's the only true play maker on the field on offense, but he seems to have run afoul of the coaches somehow and your hands might be tied that way. That position isn't truly difficult to re-supply though. I think Sean Smith has to be kept.

    The possibilities on how to go about this in the draft are plentiful. A lot depends on where the Dolphins end up picking. Right now at #14 they're not looking at the same possibilities as we might have previously thought. You can probably scratch off a Manti Te'o at #14, same with Bjoern Werner. I'm not convinced you can scratch off a Keenan Allen there because I could see him falling that far. Tyler Eifert becomes a consideration at that spot, as does a Jordan Poyer or possibly even Desmond Trufant. Alex Okafor becomes a consideration, or Dion Jordan. If he comes out, Matt Elam could be a consideration there. Barkevious Mingo might get back into the conversation at that spot.

    As a tailback, I still favor Dennis Johnson wherever you can get him. But I would note that this weekend, Knile Davis finally looked like he was "back" from an explosiveness standpoint...and he would be an interesting guy if he came at a bargain price. I personally think it's only a matter of time before Ray Graham looks like he has his lower body explosion back and I would keep an eye on him for bargain price tags. Johnathan Franklin is a good football player. I think Jarred Salubi is underrated. Zac Stacey could be a contributor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    I would double up at DE purely because the draft is so deep at the position, though it doesn't hurt that Miami could use both a #2 and #3 DE on this roster.

    I would double up at WR because essentially the Dolphins only have two guys I'd want to keep on my ideal roster at that position. So this qualifies as a heavy need.

    I would double up at CB because the Dolphins only have one CB worth a damn and you need five. This is actually the biggest need on the roster, because of the Vontae Davis trade.

    But the Dolphins need more than you can really get in one off season because the bottom line is neither starting guard is ideal, Reggie Bush seems destined to leave, there's room for one more TE preferably a very good one, they don't have a backup swing tackle, they don't have a free safety and they don't have safety backups, and they don't have linebacker backups.

    Preferably I would keep Jake Long for $10 or $11 million a year, or sell him off for very good compensation (more than a 1st round pick). Randy Starks needs to be back, been saying that forever. I think you either re-sign Brian Hartline and trade Davone Bess, or you keep Davone Bess and let Brian Hartline walk. Tough call but it's harder to find a guy that works the outside like Brian Hartline than it is to find a guy that works the inside like Davone Bess, so if you can monetize Bess for a pick then that may be the way to go. Could just keep both I guess but that places more pressure on you to grab someone with high and immediate impact a la Vincent Jackson, because otherwise you'll not have really made immediate change to a unit that clearly needs immediate change. Fasano is a #2 tight end that may cost a little more than that, so you can let him walk or not but either way another acquisition there is necessary. Tough to let Reggie Bush walk since he's the only true play maker on the field on offense, but he seems to have run afoul of the coaches somehow and your hands might be tied that way. That position isn't truly difficult to re-supply though. I think Sean Smith has to be kept.

    The possibilities on how to go about this in the draft are plentiful. A lot depends on where the Dolphins end up picking. Right now at #14 they're not looking at the same possibilities as we might have previously thought. You can probably scratch off a Manti Te'o at #14, same with Bjoern Werner. I'm not convinced you can scratch off a Keenan Allen there because I could see him falling that far. Tyler Eifert becomes a consideration at that spot, as does a Jordan Poyer or possibly even Desmond Trufant. Alex Okafor becomes a consideration, or Dion Jordan. If he comes out, Matt Elam could be a consideration there. Barkevious Mingo might get back into the conversation at that spot.

    As a tailback, I still favor Dennis Johnson wherever you can get him. But I would note that this weekend, Knile Davis finally looked like he was "back" from an explosiveness standpoint...and he would be an interesting guy if he came at a bargain price. I personally think it's only a matter of time before Ray Graham looks like he has his lower body explosion back and I would keep an eye on him for bargain price tags. Johnathan Franklin is a good football player. I think Jarred Salubi is underrated. Zac Stacey could be a contributor.
    I'd be very surprised if the master plan doesn't include drafting two wide receivers within the top 3 rounds. I expect early picks to go to pass rusher, wr and corner. The mid rounds will likely be used for offensive linemen, safety, tight end, running back and linebackers. That could change if certain players are available that the front office feels they can't pass up. This regime, with the addition of Philibin, I believe will still value offensive lineman. If a guy like Dallas Thomas is there in round 2 that might change the draft plans. Same with Tyler Eifert if he slips a little. I could definitely see the team move up to get him.
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    As far as DE goes, Dion Jordan reminds me of JPP but w/ more significant playing time in college against better competition.

    Here is a thought for TE... Eifert in the 1st & Dion Sims (Mich State) in the 3rd or 4th. I'll give Kyle Miller the benefit of the doubt. Mastrud? really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckparrothead View Post
    I would double up at DE purely because the draft is so deep at the position, though it doesn't hurt that Miami could use both a #2 and #3 DE on this roster.

    I would double up at WR because essentially the Dolphins only have two guys I'd want to keep on my ideal roster at that position. So this qualifies as a heavy need.

    I would double up at CB because the Dolphins only have one CB worth a damn and you need five. This is actually the biggest need on the roster, because of the Vontae Davis trade.

    But the Dolphins need more than you can really get in one off season because the bottom line is neither starting guard is ideal, Reggie Bush seems destined to leave, there's room for one more TE preferably a very good one, they don't have a backup swing tackle, they don't have a free safety and they don't have safety backups, and they don't have linebacker backups.

    Preferably I would keep Jake Long for $10 or $11 million a year, or sell him off for very good compensation (more than a 1st round pick). Randy Starks needs to be back, been saying that forever. I think you either re-sign Brian Hartline and trade Davone Bess, or you keep Davone Bess and let Brian Hartline walk. Tough call but it's harder to find a guy that works the outside like Brian Hartline than it is to find a guy that works the inside like Davone Bess, so if you can monetize Bess for a pick then that may be the way to go. Could just keep both I guess but that places more pressure on you to grab someone with high and immediate impact a la Vincent Jackson, because otherwise you'll not have really made immediate change to a unit that clearly needs immediate change. Fasano is a #2 tight end that may cost a little more than that, so you can let him walk or not but either way another acquisition there is necessary. Tough to let Reggie Bush walk since he's the only true play maker on the field on offense, but he seems to have run afoul of the coaches somehow and your hands might be tied that way. That position isn't truly difficult to re-supply though. I think Sean Smith has to be kept.

    The possibilities on how to go about this in the draft are plentiful. A lot depends on where the Dolphins end up picking. Right now at #14 they're not looking at the same possibilities as we might have previously thought. You can probably scratch off a Manti Te'o at #14, same with Bjoern Werner. I'm not convinced you can scratch off a Keenan Allen there because I could see him falling that far. Tyler Eifert becomes a consideration at that spot, as does a Jordan Poyer or possibly even Desmond Trufant. Alex Okafor becomes a consideration, or Dion Jordan. If he comes out, Matt Elam could be a consideration there. Barkevious Mingo might get back into the conversation at that spot.

    As a tailback, I still favor Dennis Johnson wherever you can get him. But I would note that this weekend, Knile Davis finally looked like he was "back" from an explosiveness standpoint...and he would be an interesting guy if he came at a bargain price. I personally think it's only a matter of time before Ray Graham looks like he has his lower body explosion back and I would keep an eye on him for bargain price tags. Johnathan Franklin is a good football player. I think Jarred Salubi is underrated. Zac Stacey could be a contributor.
    CK, we currently pick at #11, which should help us out a bit.
    Realistically, we could drop 1 or 2 of the last 3 games....so could sloidify somewhere close to that spot.
    If things turn south, we could pick closer to 8.
    This may make a difference as we go through the rounds, especialy if the QB's start marching up the boards (as I believe the recent success of the freshman QB's will dictate).

    Bottom line is that, if Tanny is indeed the answer, and I believe he is.....this draft is the draft that will determine the fate of teh franchise for the next 5 years.

    Bazinga.
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