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Thread: Internet "Hactivist" group Anonymous claims Karl Rove tried to steal election

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    Quote Originally Posted by trojanfin View Post
    wow... I feel you get most of your talking points from bsnbc. 47% comment was completely taken out context...



    http://politics.heraldtribune.com/20...victims-video/

    where does it say "worthless" because i am not seeing the word anywhere? You are simply parroting a liberal talking point. Congratulations!

    Romney admitted to not being so eloquent, but the message was that die-hard democrats believe in big government, various social programs and things like obamacare. In other words, people that fall in the category of progressives believe that that people need more help (or intervention) from the government. Tell me is that true or false? Romney says he doesn't "worry" about these people because he knows trying to get them to vote for him is an act of futility (their minds are already made up).

    Where does romney say that women don't deserve to be treated as equals? He sees his wife as an equal partner. During the debates he made a point about how he wanted women to be given equal opportunity in the workplace. Of course, all that liberals remember from that exchange was the "binders full of women" comment in typical liberal meme fashion.

    In fact, if you look at the commercials by the democrats during the election there were several that objectify and debase women if you look at the subtext. Exhibit a. Lena dunham stating voting is like losing your virginity. Exhibit b. The issue of contraceptives. Oh those mean republicans are going to take them away. Get real. People need to be responsible for themselves. Furthermore, it is disgusting to portray women as sperm receptacles that need financing.

    The abortion issue... Again women need to own up to their mistakes. With so many options available... Birth control i.e. The morning after pill etc. Abortion should only be relied upon as a last resort. In mitt's case he felt that issues of rape, incest or at the risk of the life of the mother an abortion would make sense. Otherwise, be responsible to not get pregnant or have the kid and put it up for adoption. Honestly, i am in favor of abortion, but it is not something that should be taken lightly (i.e. Another form of birth control).

    As for homosexuals and their right to marry... Marriage is a holy sacrament of a church. I think that gay people should be allowed to have civil unions with all the same rights as straight people, but it should be up to the churches if they want to deem it a marriage. Traditionally speaking, churches define marriage as between a man and woman, and that's what romney believes as well. Shocking i know.

    Also, if you start telling churches that they have to marry everyone that infringes upon their rights. It would be like me being a catholic and demanding that i have a bar mitsvah in a jewish synagogue because i felt left out when working in hollywood. Again the government has stuck its nose into something that it shouldn't and that's what has created all the controversy. If the government simply stated that we recognize that two people are legally together for tax purposes etc. And that religious institutions are responsible for bequeathing all the other monikers, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

    Where did romney treat latino's as second class citizens? Ok later you say anti-immigration. Again, he was all for people that went through the process legally, however, people that come here "illegally" and take advantage or our system are not welcome. It's the same reason you may have fence or feel compelled to lock your door to your residence. Guests/roommates etc. Should feel welcome and are granted access by yourself or are given a key to stay for the long term. They are given access to your amenities etc. However, you would be hard-pressed to find someone okay with waking up and seeing a complete stranger raiding your refrigerator or going through your closet. Being "undocumented" is tantamount to being a stranger in my book. I can't account for you, and consequently you are not welcome. So again, come here legally and enjoy the spoils of your being a citizen, otherwise, romney stated that he wouldn't welcome those who take advantage of our system. Common sense really.

    Finally, social issues were not the main issue of this last election. It was and still is the economy. Romney kept hammering that point, but the media and the democrats liked to keep us distracted with all these secondary issues.

    I keep hearing about the fiscal cliff not abortion rights as being the main concern that is looming in the months ahead. Conservatives at least had a plan, but the obama & co. Feel the solution is to just keep taxing the rich. Taxing the rich just makes the rich leave the country, hide their wealth or give up trying to grow their business. When there is no incentive because they keep getting dinged with more and more taxes, they will all just retire/close up shop or cut way back to avoid getting taxed to death. All those that rely on the wealthy for their jobs, as a result, will see their jobs vanish or their hours cut drastically. Furthermore, as the public sector grows and the private sector shrinks how is it sustainable to keep paying for you beloved social programs that promote all your social issues? It can't. We can keep borrowing against future by asking china to dole more money our way, but eventually the piper comes to collect. Just saying.

    Please stop regurgitating your liberal talking points (the lies), and enjoy your cadmean victory since the outcome of this country's most recent election may prove to be its undoing.

    P.s. Climate change is also complete b.s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetragrammaton View Post
    These were posturings to the crowd at the time. Romney never would have sought any legislation on abortion and would have allowed same-sex marriage to continue its course.
    What he would have done is irrelevant. We were talking about why he didn't get elected. I stated several times in the past few months that I didn't think it mattered who got elected, not much was going to change. I remember a specific post where I talked about that regardless of whatever legislation either tried to push, or chose not to, it had to go through the senate and the house, which takes it out of the President's hands for the most part.

    The point of the post was that 9954 and others keep saying they were identical. They were not. In fact, most of the ways that 9954 listed are not even in the hands of the President. My point is, in some ways he is right because Congress has much more to do with governing the country than the President does, so their personal views on most things are only a small part of the equation. But, in other ways he is terribly wrong, and these social issues came up...
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    What did you think Romney meant when he said "I cannot convince them to take personal responsibility for their own lives" sure as hell sounds like he is saying "They currently do not take personal responsibility for their own lives"

    That's pretty damning. But who knows, I'm only using transitive logic.
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