Oh yeah, I see what youíre saying, the Jets are set at QB for years to come. God I hope Rex and the rest of the rest of the guys down in that swamp ridden garbage dump of Jersey agree with you. Because other than watching my team position themselves for yet another playoff run, the second best part of the football season is watching Jet fans see their dreams come crashing down every year, and then guys like you playing make believe so you donít have to deal with the reality of the situation. Youíre like the guy that's up to his neck in flood waters commenting on how dry his hair still is.
Winning %, Division titles and Conference Championships are needed to be considered one of the best teams over a decade. The Jets don't qualify.
AFC EAST W L T PCT S.B Wins Super Bowl Appear. Playoff Appear. New England Patriots 139 53 .723 3 5 8 New York Jets 99 93 .515 6 Miami Dolphins 92 100 .479 3 Buffalo Bills 76 116 .395 AFC NORTH Pittsburgh Steelers 127 64 1 .661 2 3 8 Baltimore Ravens 116 76 .604 1 1 8 Cincinnati Bengals 81 110 1 .421 3 Cleveland Browns 66 126 .343 1 AFC SOUTH Indianapolis Colts 126 65 .661 1 2 10 Tennessee Titans 106 86 .552 1 5 Jacksonville Jaguars 89 103 .463 2 Houston Texans 65 95 .406 1 AFC West
Denver Broncos 105 87 .546 5 San Diego Chargers 102 90 .531 5 Kansas City Chiefs 87 105 .453 3 Oakland Raiders 78 114 .406 1 3
Even Oakland and Tennessee (who has a higher winning % and more division titles than the Jets) have been to a Super Bowl in that time frame, (when the Jets have not) and I don't consider either as one of the best AFC teams over that span.
The Jets have been one of the top AFC teams for over a decade, sorry the truth bothers you. Only 3 teams have more playoff wins and we did it w/ a dynasty team in the division knowing we were playing for 2nd every year. You see what that did to the bottom 2 teams in our division but the Jets were able to overcome and still be one of the top teams in the AFC.
It is not the truth. The Jets only have 3 more playoff apps and only won 7 more games than the Dolphins did over that span. The Jets barely qualified for a playoffs several times while Miami missed at 9-7 (x2) and 10-6. How can they be considered one of the best over a decade when they are so close to a team that has been as bad as Miami? 4 playoff wins in 2 years doesn't change those facts.
The Giants got hot, the Giants wouldn't lose another game. We gave it to them, that Victor Cruz TD at the end of the 1st half changed both of our seasons. We dominated play top that point and would have likely been up at least 10-3 at the half but instead we went down 10-7 and never really recovered.
since when did 6-2=? since 2001:
NYJ: 2001, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2009, 2010
Mia: 2001, 2008
we have 4 more apps and SIX more playoff wins.
We wont he required # of games in particular seasons. Our 9 win '02 team was better than our 10 win '01 team or your 10 win '03 team. You guys were basically eliminated after your 2 game losing streak late in '03 before beating bad teams the last 2 weeks to make the record look better. You were out of the race in october in 2005 before winning a bunch of meaningless games to end the year. those were the only 2 years you werre "close" even though you weren't either time. We also could have made it in '08 and last year but missed by a game each time. We earned our playoff apps and you earned yours, you also earned the but whoopings you got when you actually made it.
The stats are from 2000 to 2011.
NYJ: 2001 ( made it with a last minute FG), 2002, (Thanks to Miami choking, the Jets made it at 9-7) 2004, (Clinch becasue of a Buff loss) 2006, 2009 (made it only because Indy resting starters), 2010
Mia: 2000, 2001, 2008
Only 3 more playoff Apps and 7 more wins from 2000 to 2011. One of the best teams in the last decade wouldn't be so close to a team that has been as bad as Miami.
We have already been over the required amount of games argument. The Jets needed help several times to get in and got it, while Miami needed help several times and didn't get it. The Jets have not been one of the best teams in the league the last decade, and they were not elite from 2009 / 2010. They are proving it with their last 2 seasons and will continue to prove it until they make some changes.
I see a ton of excuses so I guess we can say both of your div titles were b/c the Jets choked, right? we were 9-4 in '00 and 8-3 in '08 and we finished 9-7 both years so I can apply that same lac of logic to tyr to take credit away from Miami.
Even adding your ONE playoff win in 2000 we still had FIVE more than you. No matter what way you slice it we have been MUCH better than Miami and one of the best teams in the AFC in the last decade.
you had 2 fake contending seasons ('03, '05), we had chances that we missed out on in '00, '08 and '11 so using your what if logic that's 3 more potential playoff apps. The bottom line is we made 5 more playoff apps and won 6 more playoff games since 2001. No matter how many excuses you make it won't change the facts.
The 00 Jets never had a better record the last 7 games of the season. Miami was up a game from week 12 on. Going into week 17 Miami didn't need to rely on another team losing (that they did not play) to win the division. The 02 Jets were 2 games behind Miami with 2 games left to play. The Jets had nothing to do with Miami losing the final 2 games. The 08 Jets were tied at 9-5 with a game against each other still left. Miami had everything to do with the Jets loss in week 17. That was not the case with the 02 Jets.
I'm not trying to change the facts. The facts are the Jets only have 3 more playoff apps and 7 more regular season wins and 1 less division title than Miami from 2000 to 2011. The Jets went into the final week of the season not knowing if they would make the playoffs or not 8 times in that time span. The other 4 times, they were eliminated long before the final week. That is not one of the best teams in the AFC over that time span.
Last edited by The New Guy; 12-05-2012 at 05:59 PM.
The '00 Jets were 6-1, 9-4. Their collapse allowed Miami to win the division.
The only time we relied on a team losing in order to clinch a spot was 2002 and that happened only b/c we started 1-4, 2-5 b/c we had a million injuries.
The jets were done in week 17 of '08, Miami had nothing to do w/ it. we could have played UM and still lost.
The facts are the Jets have 5 more playoff apps since 2001 and 6 more playoff wins. Compare yourself w/ Buffalo as it's much closer.
Miami 2 playoff apps, 0 playoff wins
Buffalo 0 playoff apps, 0 playoff wins