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    People always state the negatives, I admitt that I fugging hated Ireland but you know?? Everything is starting to come together once you take a step back. If he was winning with this team he'd be the man right??? Just like when things was kinda going good in the first part of the season. Positive threads of Ireland was popping up everywhere.

    But I see it as he got us Marshall who everyone was excited about, but learned to dislike some! Philbin didn't want him here, and they got the best deal that they could for him deal with it. It's called depreciation!! We gave up two two's and and traded him for two 3s. Randy miss got traded one of the times for a damn 4 rd pick and that was when you was still fresh! What's there to get made about? Unfortunately Jeff couldn't get replace him in do time, omg just a season but people act like its been a problem for years.

    Marshall is balling now, it happens ok. But people wanna say "oh he's neglected the position blah blah blah, but people dream of a number one WR like Marshall that would allow hartline to be th #2 and beds the slot and than we would be set right? Yeah it happened already!! A lot of people like to say that he like to draft for need right? Right?? So what are our needs I don't need to say because we all know, and you don't think he'll draft that need, as many pass rusher there is in this draft do you think he won't take one, same thing for WR and cb depending which one we go with in the first. Be happy with jones, and wake, Starks, smith, hartline, pouncey, t-hill. Four of them can be pro bowlers now this season & solia but different era, period!!! Can't argue that!!! people forgot that smith was playing like shut down corner his second year, #3 rated blah blah. But I know he's inconsistent, but very good number 2! GM'S MAKE MISTAKES PERIOD GUYS. Another point, Jeff is shopping for PHILBIN players!! That's he's job! Period. I'm fun with him being our Gm now because the team could be stacked but nobdy else sees it!!! Maybe eight pro bowlers could come from this team next season. We need three other players Wether the Greg Jennings a draftee, dansby making it in finally but you get what I'm trying say guys, open your eyes. And please stop saying he's neglected the WR POISTION because it's not true, it's only been one damn season. He knowsssssI
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    Quote Originally Posted by dade View Post
    If he was winning with this team he'd be the man right??? .
    Yes, if he was winning he would be liked, but he's not winning he's losing, so he's not liked. Its kind of funny how that works eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dade View Post
    People always state the negatives, I admitt that I fugging hated Ireland but you know?? Everything is starting to come together once you take a step back. If he was winning with this team he'd be the man right??? Just like when things was kinda going good in the first part of the season. Positive threads of Ireland was popping up everywhere.

    But I see it as he got us Marshall who everyone was excited about, but learned to dislike some! Philbin didn't want him here, and they got the best deal that they could for him deal with it. It's called depreciation!! We gave up two two's and and traded him for two 3s. Randy miss got traded one of the times for a damn 4 rd pick and that was when you was still fresh! What's there to get made about? Unfortunately Jeff couldn't get replace him in do time, omg just a season but people act like its been a problem for years.

    Marshall is balling now, it happens ok. But people wanna say "oh he's neglected the position blah blah blah, but people dream of a number one WR like Marshall that would allow hartline to be th #2 and beds the slot and than we would be set right? Yeah it happened already!! A lot of people like to say that he like to draft for need right? Right?? So what are our needs I don't need to say because we all know, and you don't think he'll draft that need, as many pass rusher there is in this draft do you think he won't take one, same thing for WR and cb depending which one we go with in the first. Be happy with jones, and wake, Starks, smith, hartline, pouncey, t-hill. Four of them can be pro bowlers now this season & solia but different era, period!!! Can't argue that!!! people forgot that smith was playing like shut down corner his second year, #3 rated blah blah. But I know he's inconsistent, but very good number 2! GM'S MAKE MISTAKES PERIOD GUYS. Another point, Jeff is shopping for PHILBIN players!! That's he's job! Period. I'm fun with him being our Gm now because the team could be stacked but nobdy else sees it!!! Maybe eight pro bowlers could come from this team next season. We need three other players Wether the Greg Jennings a draftee, dansby making it in finally but you get what I'm trying say guys, open your eyes. And please stop saying he's neglected the WR POISTION because it's not true, it's only been one damn season. He knowsssssI
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    Quote Originally Posted by roy_miami View Post
    Yes, if he was winning he would be liked, but he's not winning he's losing, so he's not liked. Its kind of funny how that works eh?

    and why is he not winning??? Tuna fish sandwich brought him and tony in. Team never has a qb, team finally has a qb that's in his DAMN rookie year but people are so damn eager to win win now that it clouds there vison. You can't expect a Gm to be successful without a Gm. He's gonna be given the chance to continue to build the team as he has man. The qb is there, so he's gonna be given one or two more seasons. What are you guys gonna say when we have a beautiful draft and make smart FA signings???
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarshallFin1 View Post
    What has ireland done to win you over like this?? has the dolphins won a playoff game under him? im just interested what has convinced you that ireland can make this team a contender? we are pretty much at the same spot we were last year, almost the same amounts of win and losses. Ireland has given away 1st round picks (vontae, Marshall) to other teams for mediocre picks and hes free agency signings speaks for themselves. So what is it that gives you blind faith in ireland???
    Who said I have blind faith in him, all I said is that I am not talking about him losing his job this off season because we all know it likely will not happen. Like it or not, he is likely going to be the GM in 2013. I honestly could take him or leave him at this point, but since he is still the GM I am going to root for him and hope for the best. What does bitching and moaning accomplish at this point since the true discussion of him losing his job likely won't come until January 2014 at the earliest.

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    Curious to know why you have faith in Ireland? He's the constant that has built an average (at best) offensive line with money and high draft picks and a paper thin roster. He's built teams that have finished 7-9, 7-9, 6-10 and 5-?? He's also been below average in the draft. What has he done to justify leading the team through a very critical offseason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhinNation View Post
    Curious to know why you have faith in Ireland? He's the constant that has built an average (at best) offensive line with money and high draft picks and a paper thin roster. He's built teams that have finished 7-9, 7-9, 6-10 and 5-?? He's also been below average in the draft. What has he done to justify leading the team through a very critical offseason?
    not defending Ireland, but if you are going to credit him for the 7-9 seasons , why not the 11-5 season? If you are going to not count the 2008 season because of Parcells, I wouldn't count the 2009 and somewhat the 2010 season. The 2011 season was Ireland's first draft where he had 100% total control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dade View Post
    and why is he not winning??? Tuna fish sandwich brought him and tony in. Team never has a qb, team finally has a qb that's in his DAMN rookie year but people are so damn eager to win win now that it clouds there vison. You can't expect a Gm to be successful without a Gm. He's gonna be given the chance to continue to build the team as he has man. The qb is there, so he's gonna be given one or two more seasons. What are you guys gonna say when we have a beautiful draft and make smart FA signings???
    Understand your point dade, but when you consider that EVERY SINGLE ONE of the veteran free agents signed this offseason are no longer on the 53 man roster, it's hard to say that Ireland is gonna make smart Free Agent signings. He replaced Brandon Marshall with Naanee and Ochocinco. Neither lasted into October on the team. The fact that NOT ONE veteran FA is still on the active roster is a failure. Why believe that next year will be different?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dade View Post
    and why is he not winning??? Tuna fish sandwich brought him and tony in. Team never has a qb, team finally has a qb that's in his DAMN rookie year but people are so damn eager to win win now that it clouds there vison. You can't expect a Gm to be successful without a Gm. He's gonna be given the chance to continue to build the team as he has man. The qb is there, so he's gonna be given one or two more seasons. What are you guys gonna say when we have a beautiful draft and make smart FA signings???
    Its possible that he could learn from his mistakes and become a decent GM or catch lightning in a bottle and hit on everything from here on out but does he deserve another chance? Is it worth the risk?

    I'm really starting to worry about the effects Ireland is having on the fanbase and the attendance at Sun Life. If he messes this off season up and Tannehill turns out to be a bust I think the team is in real danger of moving out of Miami.

    And when I say mess up, I mean colossal mess up, like something similar to what he did last offseason...
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