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Thread: Don't get your hopes too high with the 40mil under the cap

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    OPINION Don't get your hopes too high with the 40mil under the cap

    I know there's reports that we'll be $40million under the cap and it's easy to think we're going to get a few free agents but the reality is the money will go fast and most of it could go to players we already have. This is why I think we need to let Long walk unless he's willing to take 5 or 6 mil a year which I doubt he'll want to do. If we use the tag on him, it'll cost 15 mill which leave us with 25mil. Starks who we must keep will cost 8 or 9 Hartline could cost 6 or 7(I want us to keep him) and Smith could cost another 5 or 6.So just those 3 players might cost us about 20million. You'll need another 5 just for the draft which we have 10 picks including 5 in the first 3 rounds so we might even need more than 5 and that'd put us right at the top of the cap. You still have Fasano and Bush and if they walk then we need yet another TE and maybe even a RB. Now if we do let Long walk we'd have those 15 mil to work with. You can draft a RT in round 2 or 3 for a fraction and keep Martin at LT.Now you can go after a guy like Wallace. But after him we might not have much left for anyone else. Now if we can get Starks, Hartline and Smith for around 16 or 17 instead of 20 you have a chance to get a couple of more guys but tagging Long will mean we wont get any top free agents at all. I know Philbin wants to built thru the draft but you need to use free agency too. We need a proven WR at the very least and maybe a TE. That'd set us up for the draft.

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    They'll have a lot more room than what you're trying to say here even if they chose to re-sign all those guys. They can backload the contracts if they wish but I have a feeling a lot of these guys won't be back.
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    Doesn't the new CPA prohibit backloading contracts?


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    I think you echo basically everybody's sentiment. We know we hve a lot of money, reminds me of Jimmy johnson's econd year in miami. he didn't go crazy at all but tried to get in-house free agents deal done. We all know that is paramont. the fact of the matter is the Dolphins are going to be a better team next year IF the money are spent wisely. Too many scenerios:
    On defense: sign your own players, starks and smith and a couple of free agents be it a corner and a de/olb.
    On offense: Sign fasano/bush and let jake walk, get a top rate wr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fisi View Post
    I think you echo basically everybody's sentiment. We know we hve a lot of money, reminds me of Jimmy johnson's econd year in miami. he didn't go crazy at all but tried to get in-house free agents deal done. We all know that is paramont. the fact of the matter is the Dolphins are going to be a better team next year IF the money are spent wisely. Too many scenerios:
    On defense: sign your own players, starks and smith and a couple of free agents be it a corner and a de/olb.
    On offense: Sign fasano/bush and let jake walk, get a top rate wr.
    The only caveat is JIM IRELAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by flynryan15 View Post
    Doesn't the new CPA prohibit backloading contracts?
    It doesnt.

    And to the OP, we have a lot more than $40 million in cap space, and Starks will not cost $9 million a year, nor will Hartline command $7 million a year. And your average starting LT who is in his second contract is making $7-$9 million a season, not $5-$6 million a season. For the sake of having a real discussion, lets use real math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zounds View Post
    It doesnt.

    And to the OP, we have a lot more than $40 million in cap space, and Starks will not cost $9 million a year, nor will Hartline command $7 million a year. And your average starting LT who is in his second contract is making $7-$9 million a season, not $5-$6 million a season. For the sake of having a real discussion, lets use real math.
    So how do you know what they're going to cost? Do you have some inside info we don't know about? I did say that maybe we could get them for less but we don't know that for a fact. All I know is everyone's going crazy thinking we're going to have tons of money for free agency but even if we just bring back Fasano, Starks, Hartline and Smith, that right there will cost a lot of money. If we use the tag on Long then there goes another 15. We're going to need at least 5 mil for the draft if not more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    So how do you know what they're going to cost? Do you have some inside info we don't know about?
    I dont need inside info to figure out a player' value. You can look at the market and see how other players have signed in recent years. I doubt teams are beating down the door begging for Hartline's services - and he wont be getting #1 WR money. And the best DT on the market last year signed for less than $6 million a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zounds View Post
    I dont need inside info to figure out a player' value. You can look at the market and see how other players have signed in recent years. I doubt teams are beating down the door begging for Hartline's services - and he wont be getting #1 WR money. And the best DT on the market last year signed for less than $6 million a year.
    I hope you're right and we can get our guys back plus get a few new ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    I hope you're right and we can get our guys back plus get a few new ones.
    I hope we can too. As fans, we always overvalue our own players and their worth to other teams, but I think we have plenty of space to do what we need to do.
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