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Thread: Everyone knew Tannehill was raw and would need time to develop

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    The one thing I noticed yesterday is how much more fluid his throwing motion has become since the 1st game against the jest.

    His accuracy isn't Sanchez/Tebow terrible but could be improved. This IMO is where Keenan Allen and/or Eifert could greatly help the phins O & RT's progression.

    They could line Tannehill up in the pistol to take advantage of his athleticism. However, its a recipe for disaster w/ mediocre line play and no 'electricity' on offense.
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    I don't think everyone knew that. Our coaching staff sure didn't.
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    Everyone knew Tannehill was raw and would need time to develop

    yes but everyone (and I include RT) didn't believe that he'd have to be raw with an offense 'offensively' bereft of talent. hell, why not make the boy play left-handed only the last three weeks… make it official!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawledge View Post
    Can we please let the kid develop and hopefully add some talent on this team around him. How often is someone wide open? He has to be extremely accurate. He has shown some real promise. The success of luck, griffin and Wilson I think is making some of you guys forget that tannehill would need time to develop. It was assumed that he would sit behind moore or garrard his first year and mostly everyone seemed to be ok with that although most wanted him to start.
    Now that he's starting instead of learning from the sideline people want to rush the development.

    Our whole offense is not good. The running game gets like 2ypc. Can't run screens. Predictable crap. Two false starts in a row yesterday. Martin getting pushed on his ass. Its just been a tough year on offense in general.

    All 3 rookie qbs succeeding right now were all known to be more NFL ready than Ryan tannehill. The only thing that hurt Wilson in the draft was his height. Can we please stop this week to week emotional rollercoaster. Everyone knew there would be a tough year with a rookie qb and rookie head coach but for some reason some people seem to have raised their expectations quite a bit from the start of the season.
    Now, do you see why teams don't draft projects in the first round? When you are drafted in the top ten my friend, there are expectations.
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    When you draft an "acorn" with a first round pick, that is totally iresponsible by Ireland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abNORMal View Post
    This team sucks....We didn't have a Qb, (hopefully RT is the one) we have no weapons on offense, holes in the OL with no depth and there are holes in the defense (secondary, and second pass rusher, no depth at LB) WTF have we been doing the past few decades that the cupboard is so freakin' bare?!?!
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    i agree w what u said I felt like dolphins should of given matt moore chance first by given him some support than work tannerhill into starting roll later in season.
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    This thread is almost one (1) year old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 39wildman View Post
    i agree w what u said I felt like dolphins should of given matt moore chance first by given him some support than work tannerhill into starting roll later in season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawledge View Post
    Can we please let the kid develop and hopefully add some talent on this team around him. How often is someone wide open? He has to be extremely accurate. He has shown some real promise. The success of luck, griffin and Wilson I think is making some of you guys forget that tannehill would need time to develop. It was assumed that he would sit behind moore or garrard his first year and mostly everyone seemed to be ok with that although most wanted him to start.
    Now that he's starting instead of learning from the sideline people want to rush the development.

    Our whole offense is not good. The running game gets like 2ypc. Can't run screens. Predictable crap. Two false starts in a row yesterday. Martin getting pushed on his ass. Its just been a tough year on offense in general.

    All 3 rookie qbs succeeding right now were all known to be more NFL ready than Ryan tannehill. The only thing that hurt Wilson in the draft was his height. Can we please stop this week to week emotional rollercoaster. Everyone knew there would be a tough year with a rookie qb and rookie head coach but for some reason some people seem to have raised their expectations quite a bit from the start of the season.
    I said this at another thread, but I think it's worth to reuse it.

    We the dolfans like most sports-fans tend to be bipolar, we can cheer and love a player that has poor talent but a lot of luck and can trash and hate a talented guy that's having a bad time. I suggest you to relax and evaluate the situation with cold mind.

    Ryan Tannehill is a young passer, one under development. Before draft day he was seeing as a project QB and Dolphins' FO knew it from first hand, because Sherman was his coach at Texas A&M. The reasons for picking him might be unclear but in few words, Ryan has a lot of talent and potential. He's different because unlike most NFL QB, he was a receiver for a great part of his college days, so he was projected to need a large development including a pathetic rookie year in 2012 and his upgrade should start to be noticed by his third NFL season (2014).

    But Tannehill won important games in 2012 and has been better than average in his second season behind the worse O-line of the league. So Tannehill has surpassed expectations from scouts and clearly you are acting wrong by ignoring those facts.

    That said, picking Tannehill wasn't a call from Jeff Ireland himself. Philbin, Ireland and Ross were on the same page about him and their expectations on the young passer were lower than what most fans got because of his 1st round caliber.

    Also as they added star WR Mike Wallace for an insane sum, we the fans assumed to be enjoying with Dolphins scoring 70 points or more per game, but as that's not the case, there's a lot of frustration because Ryan can't complete several passes of 40 yards or more per game.

    Some fans are trashing Wallace other part of the fanbase is asking for a new QB and several others want to get rid of Ireland, Sherman, Philbin or whatever combination of these trio because they're losing patience. It might sound strange but I want to get rid of Ireland not because of his results, but his manners. Jeff is not the kind of manager that this organization deserves.

    I don't see things on black and white, I see a great gamma of colors in between. I understand that TODAY Ryan Tannehill isn't as good as Andrew Luck, but Luck is on pace to kill the league in a year or two. It's clear Tannehill will require more time than Luck. But that doesn't mean Tannehill won't be a better QB than Luck. It means he's developing, adjusting and learning.

    Think about Mike Wallace chemistry with Tannehill. As ESPN's week 13 power rankings says "The deep threat finally showed up", referring the way Mike Wallace was targeted 4-5 times on 40+ yards throws, leading to a TD and another big plays. Of course we're furious trashing Wallace for dropping a sure TD or Tannehill for overthrowing Wallace in another play. Where most persons are seeing failure, I see progress.

    As a passer I am a decent TE, but as my coach tried to insert me in some tricky plays, I learned about reading defenses, hiding the play and throwing depth passes. During that time I noticed about how each player has different speed, exactitude and style to follow a route, and that in 40+ passes require you to gain time in order to allow your receiver to run his route. So the touch is not the key, but the timing. So I can see how difficult is to synchronize Wallace and Tannehill because Ryan wants to throw with timed precision and Wallace is asking to compensate the throw based on the exact point where he's able to explode his route.

    They're finding a middle point, but it needs more practice and could be totally fixed by next season.

    On Philbin I trust.
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