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    Hartline and Bess are good players, however they are too similar to be on the field together for extended periods of time. Neither has elite speed and both do best working underkneath the defense. Because they are our starting wide receivers and both have 0 seperation ability, defenses just stack the box. Going forward I think it will be difficult to justify keeping both, as they bring the same exact thing to the table.
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    these guys would do much better with a good running game and a # 1 wide receiver and a nice TE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrlandoFin View Post
    Being doubled? Most teams are leaving one safety deep and putting the other in the box. Teams have NO respect for these guys. I have only seen either of them doubled a hadnful of times all year and those were mostly because it was zone coverage and just happened to be two defenders in the zone. CK said it last week in a thread and I agree 100%. I would either resign Hartline and trade Bess or keep Bess and let Hartline walk.
    Bess, under a good QB, would be as good as Welker for NE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matt11390 View Post
    Bess, under a good QB, would be as good as Welker for NE.
    the overrating of Bess is absolutely asinine.

    Welker has a far more developed and expansive route tree, because is a far better and more complete player. Welker has much better balance, unlike Bess who falls on his arse 90% of the time he catches a pass. Weler also has far better ability to take it the distance, Bess has ZERO ability to do so. Welker clearly has better vision, can get open downfield routinely (unlike Bess who can only operate within 10 yards as he needs more space to operate than welker, hence the infinitely smaller route tree Bess has at his stable). Welker has more speed, is quicker, better lateral movement ability, is smarter, much harder to defend... and we're just getting started.
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    Hartline should absolutely be resigned assuming his contract demands are reasonable. He has good hands, is a solid route runner and has good chemistry with Tannehill. He is not a #1 but can be a solid #2. Bess is a solid slot receiver. Compliment them with a true #1 and seam threat TE and were good to go.
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    Bess and Hartline

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadianfishfan View Post
    Yea.. nice yards stats... how many touchdowns do they have again? That's all I care about.
    Not to start a new debate but Hartline would have 3 TD's in the last 8 quarters with some accurate throws.
    The way Jeff Ireland took a GM's dream worth of cap space and draft picks and made the team worse in borderline miraculous.
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