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Thread: The whole secondary needs to be gutted next year besides Reshad Jones

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    The whole secondary needs to be gutted next year besides Reshad Jones

    Thats what I would do. I would let sean smith walk. He is way to inconsistent. We also need a ballhawking free safety too. Clemons is serviceable but we need better than serviceable. Kerry Rhodes would be an upgrade he will be a free agent. But let sean smith walk and target dominique rodgers cromartie. Then draft jordan poyer out of oregon state in the 2nd round. Go into next season with DRC, Poyer, Marshall, Kerry Rhodes, and Jones in the back end. Who knows what ireland will do though. I wouldn't be surprised he resigned carroll to a huge contract.
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    Offer Sean Smith a "reasonable" contract, take it or leave it. Definitely keep R. Marshall. Clemons could be upgraded, and get a CB in FA, that needs to happen. Draft a replacement for Clemons and use him this year until he loses the job. That is what I think needs to happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asicswrg85 View Post
    Offer Sean Smith a "reasonable" contract, take it or leave it. Definitely keep R. Marshall. Clemons could be upgraded, and get a CB in FA, that needs to happen. Draft a replacement for Clemons and use him this year until he loses the job. That is what I think needs to happen
    richard marshall the dude who cannot stay healthy? hect no, id rather keep sean smith than him, not dudes 1 cut away from going to ir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asicswrg85 View Post
    Offer Sean Smith a "reasonable" contract, take it or leave it. Definitely keep R. Marshall. Clemons could be upgraded, and get a CB in FA, that needs to happen. Draft a replacement for Clemons and use him this year until he loses the job. That is what I think needs to happen
    They already cut Richard Marshall.

    ---------- Post added at 09:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:20 PM ----------

    We also have to gut the receiving corps.
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    WOW!!! I was wondering if anyone else but me was going to EVER say it.

    sean smith needs to be the first guy OUT the door at seasons end. he cant cover. he is lazy and and makes randy moss's "plays off" look like a 40 year career with no missed games.

    he is slow to react, cant turn his hips, loses track of the ball, gets burned on slants and doesnt seem to have any real "feel" for the game.

    i hear all this "sean smith needs to have his pay cut or threaten to let him go". WHY? i agree with him making FAR less money, but, on another team. HE CANT PLAY, so what good is a pay cut. cut out the liability.

    nolan carroll is awful. but, he is a glorified walk on and wasnt supposed to be anything eye popping. and, he makes no real football money. SMITH MAKES A TON and will want even more. his play to salary ratio is hideous!!

    smith gone is the SECOND move i want to see at seasons end. FIRST is ireland getting the boot in the arse. then smith/carroll being allowed to do whatever, as long as its not in a finz uni.

    then adios amigos to JAKE LONG. big money can NOT be shelled out to these two guys. like it or not, we ARE in the market for a LEFT TACKLE.

    martin? bwahahahahah!!! he isnt a good rt. decent, thats all. and 40lbs of muscle added on wont change him. this was the knock on him in college, cant handle speed and/or bull rushers. and ireland spends a hi pick on him.

    lt is now another MUST FIND. bothe starting corners need replaced. and some new depth needs to be found along with that. a safety as good or hopefully even BETTER than resead jones [who is really coming on] to pair with him.

    PASS RUSHER to go with wake. a speed and coverage ability lb.

    wr who can TRUELY stretch the field and find the endzone. one who can actually get IN the endzone!! another TE to go with fasano.

    folks are sad and mad because they talked themselves into believing all we needed to do was replace henne and playoffs, here we come. we put a talent deficient team on the field led by a rookie qb who was politicaly HANDED the job. a guy with a season and a half of playing the position.

    this was the staffs year to evaluate. see who could actually play. who could be coached up. who should stay..........., who should go. and i think they have a good idea now. they should.

    but people got themselves into this playoff team frenzy . now its reality time and many are standing on the ledge. NO NEED FOR IT!

    now, come start of next season and ireland and smith and carroll and long are here? then find a ledge. there were just plainly to many holes in this team to get anywhere near the playoffs and to many holes that couldnt be filled in one off season.
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    I argue the same thing about Long. Some people would like to keep him if he takes a pay cut. I also ask why? Regardless of whatever we pay him, he still sucks. He will still give up the same amount of sacks and pressure and get the same holding and false start penalties if he makes 12M or 6M. BAd players are stilla aliability regardless of their salary
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    WOW!!! I was wondering if anyone else but me was going to EVER say it.

    sean smith needs to be the first guy OUT the door at seasons end. he cant cover. he is lazy and and makes randy moss's "plays off" look like a 40 year career with no missed games.

    he is slow to react, cant turn his hips, loses track of the ball, gets burned on slants and doesnt seem to have any real "feel" for the game.

    i hear all this "sean smith needs to have his pay cut or threaten to let him go". WHY? i agree with him making FAR less money, but, on another team. HE CANT PLAY, so what good is a pay cut. cut out the liability.

    nolan carroll is awful. but, he is a glorified walk on and wasnt supposed to be anything eye popping. and, he makes no real football money. SMITH MAKES A TON and will want even more. his play to salary ratio is hideous!!

    smith gone is the SECOND move i want to see at seasons end. FIRST is ireland getting the boot in the arse. then smith/carroll being allowed to do whatever, as long as its not in a finz uni.

    then adios amigos to JAKE LONG. big money can NOT be shelled out to these two guys. like it or not, we ARE in the market for a LEFT TACKLE.

    martin? bwahahahahah!!! he isnt a good rt. decent, thats all. and 40lbs of muscle added on wont change him. this was the knock on him in college, cant handle speed and/or bull rushers. and ireland spends a hi pick on him.

    lt is now another MUST FIND. bothe starting corners need replaced. and some new depth needs to be found along with that. a safety as good or hopefully even BETTER than resead jones [who is really coming on] to pair with him.

    PASS RUSHER to go with wake. a speed and coverage ability lb.

    wr who can TRUELY stretch the field and find the endzone. one who can actually get IN the endzone!! another TE to go with fasano.

    folks are sad and mad because they talked themselves into believing all we needed to do was replace henne and playoffs, here we come. we put a talent deficient team on the field led by a rookie qb who was politicaly HANDED the job. a guy with a season and a half of playing the position.

    this was the staffs year to evaluate. see who could actually play. who could be coached up. who should stay..........., who should go. and i think they have a good idea now. they should.

    but people got themselves into this playoff team frenzy . now its reality time and many are standing on the ledge. NO NEED FOR IT!

    now, come start of next season and ireland and smith and carroll and long are here? then find a ledge. there were just plainly to many holes in this team to get anywhere near the playoffs and to many holes that couldnt be filled in one off season.
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    Setting yourself up for disappointment.

    This team must concentrate on OFFENSE this upcoming offseason. PERIOD. From WRs to TE to LG to RT. All are musts. Tannehill can not go through another season with the trash he has to use.

    MIA will not have the money to spend on a DRC. Rhodes may be a possibility. But he too isn't the player you are making him out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DolfanDuBbZ~ View Post
    Setting yourself up for disappointment.

    This team must concentrate on OFFENSE this upcoming offseason. PERIOD. From WRs to TE to LG to RT. All are musts. Tannehill can not go through another season with the trash he has to use.

    MIA will not have the money to spend on a DRC. Rhodes may be a possibility. But he too isn't the player you are making him out to be.
    I believe you can go mostly on offense in this draft early and often but if we get say bowe in FA, then 2 WR drafted become less neccessary IMO and the reality of the need at Cb is too huge to ignore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DolfanDuBbZ~ View Post
    This team must concentrate on OFFENSE this upcoming offseason. PERIOD. From WRs to TE to LG to RT. All are musts. Tannehill can not go through another season with the trash he has to use.
    Think I agree with this on a bunch of different levels. Team needs to be able to score points to win in the regular season, team needs offensive weapons to help the quarterback develop, and the offense can't be more boring than watching paint dry if Ross hopes to fill the stadium.


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    Quote Originally Posted by registeredguy View Post
    Think I agree with this on a bunch of different levels. Team needs to be able to score points to win in the regular season, team needs offensive weapons to help the quarterback develop, and the offense can't be more boring than watching paint dry if Ross hopes to fill the stadium.
    I'm not to sure we should go all O on the draft. We are very lucky to have only face 2 elite or top 10 QBs this season once we face more teams like that (which we will next year) we might seriously get torch with a mediocre number 1 CB (smith)and garbage number 2 cb, no pass rush outside of wake and mediocre FS.
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